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Title: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on January 18, 2008, 12:25:55 AM
EDIT 03/27/2009
FierociousGT Build The FGTO build chronicles
Renaming build thread


Here is my build. I will have more detail and less BS here. I will also post stuff I can't post on PFF, comments, experience and more regarding this project.

HISTORY
I always like the Fiero Fastback since I saw it an automobile magazine back in the mid eighties while living in Quito, Ecuador, South America.

My '88 Fiero was purchased at eBay in Feb 2006 from a US Air Force personal in Goldsboro, NC.
Price paid was $6851 plus $540 transport to Orlando, FL. The whole process took a week and a half. Mentally exausting since I didn't see the car, trusted the word of a US Military that I was getting what was advertised to me and I did. I don't recommend buying a car from eBay without looking at it first.

Some options it came with are coil overs, GM 3800 SCII, 5-speed getrag, Borla exaust, and etc.
ebay Auction PDF - 3.55mb (http://centralfloridafieros.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3.0;attach=47)

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5229/1fierociousgt.th.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1fierociousgt.jpg)

MODIFICATIONS
During the time I've had my car I've wanted to modify the body. Found information on PFF regarding V8 Archie's 3" choptop, Mad-Arch widebody and Fiero Warehouse's IMSA widebody, Fiero Store's Turbo Scoops, Driven Vision's Extreme Hood Extractor and the most important experience from others who have venture into this unknown territory.

Image of modifications. Widebody mod not shown.
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6806/2quadview.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2quadview.jpg)

After not being able to find a reliable Fiberglass body shop in Orlando, I shipped the car to Archies with AM/PM Car Carrier (http://www.ampmcarcarrier.com) for $650 (would have been $125 less due to broker) and I attended the Choptop Home Comming '07 (Sep 2007). Spoke with Archie regarding this experience with fiberglass bodywork and $$$.

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4540/3dscn8587small.th.jpg) (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dscn8587small.jpg)

EDIT 06/26/2009
Relinking photos due to CFF site change.


EDIT 07/21/2010
relinking eBay auction PDF.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 09:20:22 AM
Here are the choptop progress pics (courtesy of Archie).

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9751/ct001w.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct001w.jpg) - (http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1517/ct002.th.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct002.jpg) - (http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6567/ct003.th.jpg) (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct003.jpg) - (http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4786/ct004.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct004.jpg)

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1918/ct005.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct005.jpg) - (http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9826/ct006.th.jpg) (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct006.jpg) - (http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3002/ct007.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct007.jpg) - (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/820/ct008.th.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct008.jpg)

(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1554/ct009.th.jpg) (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct009.jpg) - (http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7743/ct010.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct010.jpg) - (http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8203/ct011.th.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct011.jpg)

Rob's a tall guy :D!

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8136/ct012rob.th.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct012rob.jpg) - (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5020/ct013.th.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct013.jpg) - (http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8195/ct014.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct014.jpg) - (http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/684/ct015.th.jpg) (http://img33.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct015.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8695/ct016.th.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct016.jpg) - (http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2408/ct017.th.jpg) (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct017.jpg) - (http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4739/ct018.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct018.jpg) - (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/448/ct019.th.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct019.jpg)

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8868/ct020.th.jpg) (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct020.jpg) - (http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6618/ct021.th.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct021.jpg) - (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5280/ct022.th.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct022.jpg) - (http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4223/ct023.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct023.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 10:12:23 AM
Mad-Arch rear widebody install pics. Note this widebody runs from the front doors to the rear bumper. For the front end I'm using the IMSA kit (w/ lots of custom modifications).

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1481/widebody001.th.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=widebody001.jpg) - (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/296/widebody002.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=widebody002.jpg) - (http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9943/widebody003.th.jpg) (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=widebody003.jpg) - (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4162/widebody004.th.jpg) (http://img196.imageshack.us/my.php?image=widebody004.jpg)

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9089/widebody005.th.jpg) (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=widebody005.jpg) - (http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5620/widebody006.th.jpg) (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=widebody006.jpg) - (http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/403/widebody008.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=widebody008.jpg) - (http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7153/widebody009.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=widebody009.jpg)

(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9114/widebody010.th.jpg) (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=widebody010.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 10:33:56 AM
'69 Camero bow tie wing (costumized for the widebody Fiero)

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2323/bowtie001.th.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bowtie001.jpg) - (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9977/bowtie002.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bowtie002.jpg) - (http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4314/bowtie003.th.jpg) (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bowtie003.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 10:44:56 AM
Driven Visions hood scoop install pics. This hood scoop cost more money to fix then it's worth.

The BAD:
- First it is NOT hand laided fiberglass.
- Second too thick.
- Third warp in certain parts and not symmetrical in the scoops.

The GOOD:
- DV customer support is very helpful and available.

You'll remember that this car had a hood scoop glassed into the original hood. We didn't get a lot of good pics of it but trust me, it would have taken weeks to make it look right.
So earlier in this thread we took the scoop out of the original hood because starting over on the hood scoop install would take a lot less time. These scoops typically have a lot of warp to them & vary greatly in the thickness of the fiberglass.


(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7568/hood001.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood001.jpg) - (http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4760/hood003.th.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood003.jpg) - (http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4200/hood004.th.jpg) (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood004.jpg) - (http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1172/hood005.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood005.jpg)

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9675/hood006.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood006.jpg) - (http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8239/hood007.th.jpg) (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood007.jpg) - (http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5113/hood008.th.jpg) (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood008.jpg) - (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/496/hood009.th.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood009.jpg)
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8082/hood010.th.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood010.jpg)

When we install a hood scoop, we try to leave the original ribs on the underside of the hood. So when we cut the opening in the top layer of the hood we are carefull to leave the ribs in place on the underside of the hood. The more of those ribs you can leave in place the more support you have for your insert & much of the original rubber seal will still be effective in sealing the front compartment.

However that requires that the hood scoop insert you are using is about the same thickness as the thickness of the cutout you made in the hood. That means we had to do a bunch of grinding on the fiberglass.


To get it to lay in there flat we decided to cut the scoop in half to take out a bunch of the warp....
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9493/hood011.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood011.jpg)

Next we'll fiberglass it inside & out.....
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/39/hood012.th.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood012.jpg)






Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 11:07:47 AM
Green Bondo time...  :D

After some fiberglass matt & some filling & sanding the hood is coming along nicely.
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3310/bondo001.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bondo001.jpg) - (http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8443/bondo002.th.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bondo002.jpg)

And some filling & sanding on the bodywork is looking good too.....
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/131/bondo003.th.jpg) (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bondo003.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 11:16:39 AM
Doing some mirror tests with photochop. Looked into several mirrors. Hese are the three I liked.

1.- F348 ($3600 each new OEM) http://www.ferrariusa.com/home.php (http://www.ferrariusa.com/home.php)
2.- F355 ($475 set of folding replicas) http://www.kitcarsforum.com/replica-355-mirrors-t7181.0.html (http://www.kitcarsforum.com/replica-355-mirrors-t7181.0.html)
3.- Diablo ($425 set of folding replicas) http://tinyurl.com/2qwzf6 (http://tinyurl.com/2qwzf6)

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3046/f348f355diablo.th.jpg) (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f348f355diablo.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 11:27:41 AM
Here us my photochop concept of the front end. In this example we are using C5 non popups. Had some issues due to the time it would take to modify the hood for these headlight and they would sit lower in the bumper vs the stock Fiero popup location. I still want my car to look like a Fiero.
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4137/blackdeathalafierocious.th.jpg) (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blackdeathalafierocious.jpg)

C5 non-pop pictures.
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8853/75396098.th.gif) (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=75396098.gif)

First aligning the light before cutting.
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5528/hl000.th.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl000.jpg)

Cut and put in place.
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7631/hl006.th.jpg) (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl006.jpg) - (http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4830/hl007.th.jpg) (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl007.jpg)

 I requested the headlight to be moved into the fender. Bad observation. I didn't realize that it's not centered with the marker light. The growing pains of customizing. :(
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8893/hl0065.th.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl0065.jpg)

Looks good but due to the angle of the light we can move it up. I want it in a similar location where the stock Fiero HL are located. Not going to happen. It would cost me more time to do the R&D with these HL. I decided to go with what has been proven to work and not venture anymore. Honda/Acura NSX headlight but the OEM ones run close to USD $3000 with all the parts that I need. Not to crazy about these. They even look strange on the NSX IMO. I do some research on these.
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5236/hl008.th.jpg) (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl008.jpg) - (http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8797/hl009.th.jpg) (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl009.jpg)
(http://centralfloridafieros.net/forum/gallery/CT25/HL009.JPG)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 11:34:21 AM
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9145/imsa001.th.jpg) (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imsa001.jpg) - (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3299/imsa002.th.jpg) (http://img196.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imsa002.jpg) - (http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6913/imsa003.th.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imsa003.jpg) - (http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2957/imsa004.th.jpg) (http://img268.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imsa004.jpg) - (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3689/imsa005.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imsa005.jpg)

The wheel well will be opened up to allow bigger wheel so they won't rub on the IMSA fender. Note that the IMSA kit was made is the late '80, cars then didn't have 20" wheels.
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8360/imsa006.th.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imsa006.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 11:44:47 AM
The Diablo replicas arrived from Brazil and the GT-One (http://www.gt-rom.net/gtrom/gtlightkit/index.htm) NSX ones from Japan.
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8914/diablonsx.th.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diablonsx.jpg)

(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/979/nsx001.th.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nsx001.jpg) - (http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8091/nsx002.th.jpg) (http://img268.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nsx002.jpg) - (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1091/nsx003.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nsx003.jpg)

These are H4. I'm going to go with the 6000k which emits 2900lm. I like a little tint of blue.
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5079/xenontemp.th.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xenontemp.jpg)

EDIT:
Added GT-One web link.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 01:25:24 PM
Flew up to Archie's shop in late December '07 (right after holidays) to check progress and take the new GT-One headlights.

Archie showing me the Fiero Store turbo sail panels w/ glass I asked him to modify for the choptop. Lots of time to get this right and he love 'em. :D
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6027/arch001.th.jpg) (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arch001.jpg) - (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1150/arch002.th.jpg) (http://img196.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arch002.jpg) - (http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7615/arch003.th.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arch003.jpg) - (http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3158/archorly.th.gif) (http://img268.imageshack.us/my.php?image=archorly.gif)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 01:33:13 PM
This time charting into known territory again... so we know what to expect. :) Archie has been here before with TroyBoys NSX headlights. Mines are a bit different.

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6288/hlgtone001.th.jpg) (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone001.jpg) - (http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7638/hlgtone002.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone002.jpg) - (http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5756/hlgtone003.th.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone003.jpg) - (http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2964/hlgtone004.th.jpg) (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone004.jpg)

(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9996/hlgtone005.th.jpg) (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone005.jpg) - (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7444/hlgtone006.th.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone006.jpg) - (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5428/hlgtone007.th.jpg) (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone007.jpg) - (http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/76/hlgtone008.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone008.jpg)

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9672/hlgtone009.th.jpg) (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone009.jpg) - (http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1160/hlgtone010.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone010.jpg) - (http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5910/hlgtone011.th.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone011.jpg) - (http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9787/hlgtone012.th.jpg) (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone012.jpg)

Smile Kris! ;)
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9637/hlgtone013kris.th.jpg) (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlgtone013kris.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 01:46:51 PM
Quotes from Archie in italic.
We worked on the front end all week. (01-20-2008)

After working the headlight openings Kris went on to glassing in the front air dam & right now the front end is off of the car as he trues up the radii of the front wheel well arches.

I'm here to tell you that it's a lot easier to photoshop in a set of headlights than it is to actually get them installed right.

Here's some pics.

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3286/sanding001.th.jpg) (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sanding001.jpg)

When you're quoting to put something like this together, it's hard to be exact because you never know what you're going to run into.

Here the tops of the fiberglass fenders have too much arc in them & don't match the hood so you spend time grinding down the fiberglass

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6686/sanding002.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sanding002.jpg) - (http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5523/sanding003.th.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sanding003.jpg)

Doing this filling & sanding don't make for a lot of photo opps but it's gotta be done.

We don't get to take the green tape off of the lightrs until we are done with the heavy body work.

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4953/sanding004.th.jpg) (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sanding004.jpg)

Right now the front end is off of the car again for more glass work........
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5629/sanding005.th.jpg) (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sanding005.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 01:52:17 PM
Here on Troy's nose, you can see how the widemouth front spoiler option gives a good solid "floor" for the front end & also will help to funnel air to the radiator.
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6748/troysfloor.th.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=troysfloor.jpg)

Floor will to be added for bumper support.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 01:55:22 PM
Not much to report, just more sanding filling & shaping.

We've spent more time on the nose of this car than we've spent on everything else.

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/593/moresanding001.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=moresanding001.jpg) - (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3645/moresanding002.th.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=moresanding002.jpg) - (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7940/moresanding003.th.jpg) (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=moresanding003.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 01:57:51 PM
TroyBoy did make a comment regarding the nose to Archie.

Looking good.
Archie are you going to fill in the lines?

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7251/troycomment.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=troycomment.jpg)

Archie's reply:
Nope, he wants the nose seperate.

My reply:
The reason it's not getting filled is if the bumper has to be removed for any reason and if I'm not mistaken red box is one piece [PIC 1]... Right Archie or is it separate so we can fill the lines and do this[PIC 2]?

[PIC 1]
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4281/fgtcomment.th.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgtcomment.jpg)

[PIC 2]
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6748/troysfloor.th.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=troysfloor.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 02:11:26 PM
No reply but a few post later....

Just a few pics of some of the surfaces & edges on the front clip that Kris is trying to get all fitting perfect with each other. In additon he filled in the molding areas on the front fenders, reshaped the wheel well opening lip & is finishing off the flush mounting of the front emblem.
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5246/sideburns001.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sideburns001.jpg) - (http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3853/sideburns002.th.jpg) (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sideburns002.jpg) - (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3747/sideburns003.th.jpg) (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sideburns003.jpg) - (http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7097/sideburns004.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sideburns004.jpg)
(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6007/sideburns005.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sideburns005.jpg) - (http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/362/sideburns006.th.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sideburns006.jpg) - (http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4754/sideburns007.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sideburns007.jpg)

We had a communication issue, which was later resolved. Again the growing pains of customizing. I wish I was living in IL or Archie's shop was down in FL. Both parties have to work together and it's so much easier when you are physically closer, you can be on site to communicate and see in person whats going on. You might have one idea and understanding but the other party might be understanding differently.

Note is normal when customizing.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 02:20:01 PM
The side marker lights. I looked and looked and looked. I like the Mini Cooper ones. They cost less then $30 on ebay for the set (two front orange/two rear rear). Also the Lotus Exige uses these similar ones. I like their vertical form... Thinking outside the box.

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4750/sidemarkers000.th.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sidemarkers000.jpg)

Archie and his team decided to paint them on to have a visual before cutting the fiberglass.
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1292/sidemarkers001.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sidemarkers001.jpg) - (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6044/sidemarkers002.th.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sidemarkers002.jpg) - (http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/706/sidemarkers003.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sidemarkers003.jpg) - (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/570/sidemarkers004.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sidemarkers004.jpg)
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1020/sidemarkers005.th.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sidemarkers005.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 03:06:02 PM
Headlight update.  :)

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9785/hlupdate001.th.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlupdate001.jpg) - (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1962/hlupdate002.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlupdate002.jpg) - (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7427/hlupdate003.th.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlupdate003.jpg) - (http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9084/hlupdate004.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlupdate004.jpg) - (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3093/hlupdate005.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hlupdate005.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 03:08:48 PM
Will need to updating some of the lines so they flow...

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/715/lines001.th.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lines001.jpg) - (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4571/lines002.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lines002.jpg) - (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3765/lines003.th.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lines003.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 03:13:46 PM
Fiero Store's turbo scoops w/ glass modified for choptops. Took lots of time to cut up and get it right.

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7443/fstubroscoopsglass001.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fstubroscoopsglass001.jpg) - (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/680/fstubroscoopsglass002.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fstubroscoopsglass002.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 03:52:12 PM
The mirrors did come in. I'm getting together a few posts on them now.....

New windshield.
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4754/windshield.th.jpg) (http://img33.imageshack.us/my.php?image=windshield.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 04:11:10 PM
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1664/mirrors001.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors001.jpg)

The area we have to fit into is measured as follows.....
Line "C" is 5.8" long. The angle from line "C" to line "A" is 29 degrees. The angle from line "C" to line "B" is 111 degrees. Lay this out on a pc. of cardboard & it looks like this.....


(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1457/mirrors002.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors002.jpg) - (http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9210/mirrors003.th.jpg) (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors003.jpg) - (http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6601/mirrors004.th.jpg) (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors004.jpg) - (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9652/mirrors005.th.jpg) (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors005.jpg)

(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4432/mirrors006.th.jpg) (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors006.jpg) - (http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8595/mirrors007.th.jpg) (http://img268.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors007.jpg) - (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1236/mirrors008.th.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors008.jpg)

Now, let's take a look at the mirror, we'll get back to the triangle later. I did a complete layout inspection of the mirror. For reference here, we're going to call the area where the mirror legs meet the base plate the "BODY". The 2 legs of the mirror have Radii where they meet the base plate. I measured the mirror "BODY" at the base of those Radii, no more no less.

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6962/mirrors009.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors009.jpg) - (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/129/mirrors010.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors010.jpg)

The basic "BODY" of the mirror is 4.45" long & 3.35" high. The legs are rounded a bit where they meet the base plate. So I rounded the corners of the 4.45 x 3.35 rectangle "BODY" with some tape.

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9973/mirrors011.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors011.jpg) - (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9949/mirrors012.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors012.jpg) - (http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2928/mirrors013.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors013.jpg) - (http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/600/mirrors014.th.jpg) (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors014.jpg)

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9186/mirrors015.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors015.jpg) - (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8566/mirrors016.th.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors016.jpg) - (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9846/mirrors017.th.jpg) (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors017.jpg) - (http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/538/mirrors018.th.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrors018.jpg)

the mirror would have to be mounted a little over 2" down into the door panel to avoid modifying the "A" pillar.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 04:19:40 PM
19" OZ Superleggera III wheel test on a '88 Pontiac Fiero. I need a bigger wheel!

Wheels test fitting.
Chuck "MotorTV" brought one of his rear wheels over today for a test fit on #25. The outside wall of the tire sticks out about 1/2" at the top of the wheel well.


> MotorTV
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8416/wheels001.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheels001.jpg) - (http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5594/wheels002b.th.jpg) (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheels002b.jpg) - (http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1338/wheels003.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheels003.jpg) - (http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5782/wheels004.th.jpg) (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheels004.jpg)

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1787/wheels005.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheels005.jpg) - (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3493/wheels006.th.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheels006.jpg) - (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9826/wheels007h.th.jpg) (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheels007h.jpg) - (http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6443/wheels008w.th.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheels008w.jpg)

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2007/wheels009.th.jpg) (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheels009.jpg)

Special thanks to Chuck (aka MotorTV).

This is the exact style O.Z. Superlegger III that I want. Black w/ chrome lip. 19" at the front & 20" at rear. Will need a pro to mesure the wheels due to my suspension is from a '88 model versus '84-'87 years. As you can see the wheel sticks out. Chuck's Notchback is an '86.
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4264/ozsuperiii.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ozsuperiii.jpg)

>HRE wheel test using choptop #22-pre '88 wheels.
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3337/tbwheelside01.th.jpg) (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tbwheelside01.jpg)

FRONT seem to fit well.  :)
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1107/tbwheelft01.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tbwheelft01.jpg) - (http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2166/tbwheelft02.th.jpg) (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tbwheelft02.jpg)

REAR stick aout about an inch. :(
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/622/tbwheelrr01.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tbwheelrr01.jpg) - (http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7449/tbwheelrr02.th.jpg) (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tbwheelrr02.jpg) - (http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3401/tbwheelrr03.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tbwheelrr03.jpg)

>HRE wheel test #2 using choptop #20-pre '88 wheel.

Rear wheel sticks out 1/2". In the inside lip there is 1.15" of separation from the coil over.
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3182/hre01.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hre01.jpg) - (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5590/hre02.th.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hre02.jpg) - (http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8486/hre03.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hre03.jpg) - (http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9963/hre04.th.jpg) (http://img190.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hre04.jpg)

(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9030/hre05.th.jpg) (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hre05.jpg) - (http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3687/hre06.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hre06.jpg) - (http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4060/hre07.th.jpg) (http://img189.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hre07.jpg) - (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4388/hre08.th.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hre08.jpg)

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6369/hre09.th.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hre09.jpg)

EDIT 03/17/2007
Tire Rack in South Bend, IN gave me the specs to MotorTV's wheels (for '84-'87 Fiero w/ custom Arch FRONT widebody and Mad-Arch REAR widebody).
Front 18x8 w/+22mm offset, 2" outer lip and 225/35/18 tire.
Rear 19x11 w/+10mm offset, 4" outer lip and with 315/25/19 tire.

EDIT 11/26/2008
HRE wheel data

Mad Curls flip nose (choptop #20-pre '88)
FRONT: R23124 T19P397020 = 19x9" Dia. Offset +39mm
REAR: R30678 5T20P117040 = 20x11" Dia Offset +11mm with a 4" outer lip and 7" inner barrel.

Troyboys IMSA (choptop #22-pre '88)
FRONT: R55816 R5A19P357015, 19x8.5" Dia. Offset +35mm
REAR: R55816 R5A20P057050, 20x12" Dia. Offset +5mm.

EDIT 12/08/2008
Car-2-Lo (http://www.westcoastfieros.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133&PN=1)'s custom choptop & widebody.

Brand: Axis
Model: Matrix
FRONT: 18x8", +40mm Offset
REAR: 20x10.5", +35mm Offset (Nissan 350Z 5x114.3mm BP)
Spacer: (rear) 1.50" (1-5/16 thick ?)

EDIT 01/05/2009
Factory 1988 Fiero GT 15" wheel specs:
Brand: Western Wheel
Model: Diamond Spoke Alum
FRONT: 15x6", 37mm offset
REAR: 15x7", 41mm 35mm offset

Factory 1986-1987 Fiero 15" wheel specs:
Brand: Western Wheel
Model: Diamond Spoke Alum
FRONT: 15x7", 35mm offset
REAR: 15x7", 35mm offset

Founds additional info on CalgaryFieros.com (http://www.calgaryfieros.com/OSGdocs/wheels.html)
"If I read this correctly, this means that the 15x7 wheel on all four corners of the 86-87 GTs are different than the 15x7 wheel on the *back only* of the 88 WS6 cars."

GOOD POINT! Yes, they are different.
 There is a three letter stamp on the OEM wheel:

XBZ: 86-87 (35mm offset). This also goes for the '88 rear wheels.
XRS, XXJ: back of 88 (41mm offset) REAR WHEEL


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 04:25:20 PM
I had a blow out with Archie due to customization issues, but we are good again. On with the project.

Here is an idea presented my MMBRAZIL down in Brazil who makes the Diablo replica mirrors. The same as Archies thoughts without violating the "A" pilar.

(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1667/mirrormmbrazil.th.jpg) (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrormmbrazil.jpg)

Archie and his team are going to work on this.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 04:44:14 PM
Diablo mirror and Fiero Store turbo scoop w/ glass modified for choptops... test.

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/901/mirrormount001.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrormount001.jpg) - (http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4383/mirrormount002.th.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrormount002.jpg) - (http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2240/mirrormount003.th.jpg) (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrormount003.jpg) - (http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4166/mirrormount004.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrormount004.jpg)

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9476/mirrormount005.th.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrormount005.jpg)

Yesterday I was up at Archies. If I recall correctly these mirrors stick out 1.5" more than TroyBoys F430 mirrors! Archie was not to crazy about them, but I love that they stick out! :D I'm going to need mirror insurance or take two parking spots.... Cause I can! ;)

The base of the mirror and the stem on the base had to be modified.

Now on to the right side and the deck vent.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2008, 05:12:56 PM
Nice MMBRAZIL released the same mirrors in Carbon Fiber...
http://tinyurl.com/2qrwlf (http://tinyurl.com/2qrwlf)

They are sick!  :D
Of course the base would have to be modified for Fieros (chop or non chop).


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 21, 2008, 09:15:39 AM
Working on the right side mirror.

(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1826/mirrorrt.th.jpg) (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrorrt.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 21, 2008, 06:56:07 PM
Update from Archie...

Kris made a completely new fiberglass base for the right side mirror (just like he did on the drivers side mirror) Also the door panel has been modified. Lots of filling & sanding yet to do but it's on the car & it's all down hill from here.

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8846/mirrorrt001.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrorrt001.jpg) - (http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3496/mirrorrt002.th.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrorrt002.jpg) - (http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7882/mirrorrt003.th.jpg) (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrorrt003.jpg) - (http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9901/mirrorrt004.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mirrorrt004.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 01, 2008, 04:01:56 PM
Updates from Archie...

Just about done.
Got the Sideburn, 1/4 panel lines lined up on both sides of car.
Got to final install the side marker lights.
Going to pick up a few cans of primer this weekend so we can spray bomb some primer on it to make it presentable.
Just a couple of hours monday & we'll be done.


(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7711/prime001.th.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prime001.jpg) - (http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/511/prime002.th.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prime002.jpg) - (http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5426/prime003.th.jpg) (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prime003.jpg) - (http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1097/prime004.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prime004.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 03, 2008, 08:11:15 PM
Note the turbo sail panels are not mounted. I emailed Archie to see if he can spray paint the mirrors and sail panels black for looks.
Here an update from Archie...

Subject: Finished
Some pics.


(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1778/fgt001.th.jpg) (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgt001.jpg) - (http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1407/fgt002.th.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgt002.jpg) - (http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3517/fgt003.th.jpg) (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgt003.jpg) - (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2281/fgt004.th.jpg) (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgt004.jpg)

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6777/fgt005.th.jpg) (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgt005.jpg) - (http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3294/fgt006.th.jpg) (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgt006.jpg) - (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9966/fgt007.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgt007.jpg) - (http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8644/fgt008.th.jpg) (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgt008.jpg)

(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6282/fgt009.th.jpg) (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgt009.jpg)

He ignored my email...  :think:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 03, 2008, 10:14:58 PM
Couldn't wait for Archie so I Photochop the black mirrors, black turbo sail panels and added the O.Z. Wheels. :D...

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8288/fgt010.th.jpg) (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgt010.jpg) - (http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3696/fgt011.th.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgt011.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 04, 2008, 07:49:37 AM
Well after I resolve the bill, ship FGT back home to FL and $ave up again (since I exceeded my budget :(, I'll be saving up for a while . The sky in NOT the limit, but would be nice if it was :)), I need to finish the deck scoop and then I'd like to do a very similar dash like Curlys #11 (w/o digital gauges). Curly has a contact in the FL gulf coast who made two of these dashes for $1500 each. IMO it still looks like a Fiero dash but modernized. I like to keep that Fiero look and feel to my car. After all it is a Fiero ;).

(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2635/curlydash001.th.jpg) (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=curlydash001.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: ITALGT on March 05, 2008, 06:20:50 PM
This Fiero is just looking amazing. 

Plus you've been giving me some of my own ideas!   ;D

Thanks again for the parts donation!!!

Brett


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Proud88GT on March 11, 2008, 08:02:50 PM
I like the car, but man you are going to need two parking spots for that car with the mirrors out like that.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 12, 2008, 09:29:30 AM
I'm going to re-evaluate the mirrors. I may reduce the base length 1" to 2" but either way I will still have to use two parking spots to avoid getting the paint scratch.

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2159/becauseyoucanfordgt.th.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=becauseyoucanfordgt.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 02, 2008, 07:52:09 PM
I will be picking up FGT this Saturday from V8A. FGT will be stored in a warehouse in North IL for a few months. I'm going to try to have it ready for the 25th Anniversary show.

If anyone is curious, the car insurance is from Hagerty at $285 a year for $30k coverage (includes 500 miles driveable mile and covers trailed too).


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: madcurls on April 05, 2008, 03:34:11 PM
 ;)
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7287/pickupdscn8647small.th.jpg) (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pickupdscn8647small.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on April 06, 2008, 11:16:07 PM


Congratulations Dave,

Very happy for you ! Looking forward to seeing it, when you eventually bring it down.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: fieroblonde on April 07, 2008, 09:21:52 AM
Here is a preview...of the car guys looks fabulous.
T.

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3192/warehouse001.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warehouse001.jpg) - (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/905/warehouse002.th.jpg) (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warehouse002.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: macphail8 on April 07, 2008, 09:42:36 AM
How tall are you?!  lol 

What is the tallest a person can be to comfortable sit in a choptop?

Lookin' nice!  I couldn't tell from the pic, but are you using the Mini Cooper turn markers in the rear as well to match the front turn markers?

Cheers, Derek


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: SAFASTRO on April 07, 2008, 10:42:00 AM
Hey!!
Glad to see you made it back safely!!  ;D
Must be nice to have that thing back home now, eh??
Can't wait to see the rest of your build.
Keep us "posted"!!


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 08, 2008, 10:40:55 AM
How tall are you?!  lol  

What is the tallest a person can be to comfortable sit in a choptop?

Lookin' nice!  I couldn't tell from the pic, but are you using the Mini Cooper turn markers in the rear as well to match the front turn markers?

Cheers, Derek


I'm 6'.0". The 3" choptop is a tight fit. IMO 2" choptop would be ideal and Car-2-Lo (Canada) (http://www.westcoastfieros.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133&PN=1) proved that it's possible.

Yes, I'm using the Mini Cooper marker lights on the front and rear.

SAFASTRO, FGT is still in North IL but out of V8A's shop. Not sure when I will bring it back to FL.

I'm just glad it's in my possession. It's been challenging. Before shipping FGT to Archie's shop in Sep '07 I contacted several PFF members for references and was told the following: "Archie is only good at doing one thing and thats choptops... Nothing else".

Stay tunned for my review (The Good, The Bad & The Ugly), total costs of the project and recommendation for working with ANY custom shop.
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Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 09, 2008, 08:34:36 AM
O.Z. Superleggera III Wheels
(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/488/stdoil.th.jpg) (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stdoil.jpg)

R.O.H Modena.
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2513/roh001800.th.jpg) (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roh001800.jpg)

R.O.H Modena Black Center.
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6684/roh002800.th.jpg) (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roh002800.jpg)

R.O.H Strada Chrome Lip.
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/544/roh003800.th.jpg) (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roh003800.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Koenig355 on April 09, 2008, 09:10:12 AM
Depending on the color the car is going  tobe painted  the ROH Modena black looks great especially if you are using big brakes behind them.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: madcurls on April 09, 2008, 04:13:52 PM
IMO I think the all three ROH wheels look better on #025 vs. the OZ rims. 8)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 18, 2008, 12:08:49 PM
PLEASE NOTE THIS IS MY PERSONAL EXPERIANCE. THE CFF CLUB DOES NOT TAKE ANY RESPOSIBILITY FOR THESE COMMENTS.

                  Honesty: :1star: :1star: :0star: :0star: :0star:
Knowledge & Communication: :1star: :1star: :0star: :0star: :0star:
      Workmanship Quality: :1star: :1star: :1star: :1star: :0star:
    Time To Complete Task: :1star: :1star: :1star: :1star: :1star:
         Customer Service: :1star: :0star: :0star: :0star: :0star:

Overall Rating (http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5981/overallrating.gif)


THE GOOD
The quality of the work looks very good from what I can tell. They work fast. I did notice pin holes in several areas of the body but I consider them minor. Since I have not driven the car on the road I won't be able to tell if there will be any stress cracks. Kris & Rob (The Polish kids) know what they are doing.

THE BAD
Lack of quality control. Surprising since Archie worked in aeronautic parts mfg as quality assurance for more than 10 years if I'm not mistaken. Simple things like cutting out the hood vent were not done. The rockers lip that lays on the inner part of the door frame has a gap of more or less 1/4". I will have to pay some extra to fix this. Archie does NOT like to give estimates. I was able to get a solid quote from Archie for the first $12.5k. These tasks had a low to high price in case it took longer, which I imagined from the beginning it would and was fine since I had solid maximum price. We ran into several issues during the customization process which is normal but the lack of communication played a huge roll. In some occasion Archie would yell and cuss on the phone due to his frustration. I had to beg him to do custom modifications my way not his. No guidance from him at all. Only constant complaining.

THE UGLY
Communication worsen so I kept a log. He would NOT reply to most of my emails, return phone calls, or reply to a simple question on my on my PFF build thread, which he didn't want to do it the way I requested and end me costing me more money. One of his excuses was "Kris is going to get mad! And will cost you 10 more hours". I noticed discrepancies in the labor cost from verbal to on paper but was fine to a point until the Diablo replica mirror incident on PFF (Feb '08). The complaining, yelling, rudeness, lack of email replies and no return phone calls got out of control.
http://www.fiero.com/forum/Forum2/HTML/085825-8.html#p281 (http://www.fiero.com/forum/Forum2/HTML/085825-8.html#p281)

I emailed Archie requested quote for the mirrors (Feb '08). Never heard back. After PFF incident we talked and I give him the ok to continue the mirror project. I assumed $1000 max since mounting Ferrari F430 mirrors cost $600 for both sides and my mirror bases had to be modified (fiberglass mirrors). When this task was completed the total time on the invoice was 54 hours but Archie did discount it to 47 hours (aprox $1800). I could not believe this! I should have pressured him to reply with the quote. I left him a message and did not return my call. When I got a hold of him and questioned this charge he said he didn't reply to the email cause didn't know how long it would take and couldn't do anything for me. At this point I could not continue with the deck lid project and he exceeded my budget. Archie knew I was on a budget but was not aware of the amount. No courtesy call, email or nothing. I had to resort to doing payments to cover the reminder of almost $7k and get my car out of his shop. Several people mention this could be his revenge for the public PFF incident I confronted him on.

I'm not happy after paying aprox $17k in labor and being mistreated as a customer. His customer service skills are extremely poor. Wouldn't reply to most of my emails and most of my phone calls. Would answer the phone with an attitude and even yell at me. When this reached my abuse limit I confronted several
times on the phone. I was warned by several P F F members about his attitude before shipping my car in Sep '07, but I took the risk since I didn't have any issues with exchanging warp rockers.

On top of all this I received a PM stating that he made molds of my modified IMSA front bumper and my choptop sail panels which I paid for the R&D. Just doesn't surprise me.

I'm glad I trailed the car especially since I noticed the green anti freeze instead orange Dexcool in the new coolant reservoir. At the warehouse I checked the radiator and the hoses leading TO and FROM the engine.... empty. If I would have drove it back I would have lost the engine. Just don't know what to think.

CONCLUSION:
From the beginning I was told "Archie is only good at doing one thing and that’s choptops... Nothing else". I have to agree 101% after dealing with him. Archie burned this bridge.

Tips for dealing with ANY custom shop:

1.- Check the reputation and get references(Quality of work, communication, time to complete task, check with BBB).

2.-  Get Quote/Estimate in writing. If they don't want to give you anything in writing then they are not sure of their capabilities. If I'm not mistaken this is a requirement by law before performing any work. Also a good idea is to have a certain value as a cut off limit.

3.- Driving distance. This is a major factor. Make sure the shop is in driving distance. It makes it easier to communicate and see your work in progress not having to deal with the phone, email communication nightmare.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Koenig355 on April 18, 2008, 02:20:38 PM
 :o :o :o.....that was interesting after reading it twice and I am trying to  start somewhere on your observation, there are two sides to every story and I am sure archie will respond since he is a member here.

I understand you were excited to get your car chopped etc  and since Archie was the only one commercially offering that service  but I don't know what kind of arrangement both of you initially made but obviously there was a lack of knowledge on your side and a lack of communication some where.

Dave  I don't know if you did get a work order from Archie  outlining what was to be done and the overall cost but if you didn't  that was your first mistake and secondly on custom jobs like yours he should have given you a ballpark figure  with the understanding  anything extra he would provide you with a supplementary bill instead of working by the hour.

The prices were exhorbitant to install the mirrors and the time to do it 54 hours :o wow that works  to $33 per hour  but if he didn't have to make them it should not have taken so long to install them, also a  total cost of labor $17,000 works out to708 hours  .....well what is done is done.


Well just move on from this and  try to learn the basics of DIY custom work and work with your buddies from now on ;)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Blacktree on April 18, 2008, 07:52:52 PM
From the beginning I was told "Archie is only good at doing one thing and that’s choptops... Nothing else". I have to agree 101% after dealing with him. Archie burned this bridge.
I would hope that he's good for V8 swaps, too. But I assume you're only referring to bodywork.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 26, 2008, 11:07:58 AM
Koenig355, his normal shop rate is $50 p/hr but if your doing multiple items he may discount it to $40 p/hr. Yes I'm going to move on.

Blacktree, Do you really need him for V8 swaps or for fiberglass body work? No. And if Nixon Chop Top Fiero can get going again thats solves that part of the puzzle.

Now I was reviewing my side photo shots of FGT since I'm going to make more mods to the rear of the widebody (IMO looks bland, needs some spice), I noticed V8A never fixed the left rocker side burn behind the front wheel :angry: Right side seems to have been done. AGAIN, THIS IS WHY YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CUSTOM SHOP IS IN DRIVING DISTANT.

PFF reply from V8A regarding issue.
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7233/zlinespff.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zlinespff.jpg)

RIGHT SIDE seems to have been fixed.
(http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/195/zrtlines.th.jpg) (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zrtlines.jpg)

LEFT SIDE not fixed.
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5512/zltlines.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zltlines.jpg)

And yes I paid for this too  :angry: . I have attached my final detailed invoice.

EDIT: Added downloadable attachment below
(http://centralfloridafieros.com/forum/gallery/market/animated arrow.gif)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 26, 2008, 11:19:19 AM
Final email from V8A regarding concerns and issues. Never heard back what Kris thought regarding the electrical issue with the trunk release.

-----Original Message-----
From: Archie@v8archie.com [mailto:Archie@v8archie.com]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:19 PM
To: DavidM
Cc: V8ARCHIE@aol.com
Subject: Re: FGT Questions

When we replaced the reservoir tank it was empty & we never took the rad cap
off so we never knew it was Dex-cool nor would we know that it was low. We
didn't work on the engine or cooling system (& it never leaked any coolant
on the floor) so we had no reason to suspect that it was low & no reason to
actually check it since we we weren't doing anything to the car that would
require that we drive it.

I'll look into the trunk release, are you talking about pressing the trunk
release on the remote or on the dash? If it's the dash, I would suspect that
one of the headlight or side marker light loose wires are touching someplace
giving a feedback. that kinds of stuff is pretty common on Fieros when all
the lighting is not hooked up. But I'll ask Kris & Rob about it.

I'm disappointed about a lot of things too. When you were here in Feb. to
inspect the car the hood vents were not cut then & the primer was on it at
that time. I just assumed that it met your approval at that time, sorry.

Archie


----- Original Message -----
From: <DavidM>
To: <Archie@v8archie.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:08 PM
Subject: FGT Questions

Archie,

-What was done with the engine cooling system, I mean the radiator coolant
(antifreeze)? Why is it green? I noticed it in the reservoir. I had orange
coolant (Dex-Cool) and the levels of antifreeze seem to be very low to none
in the radiator and hoses running to and from.

-Also noticed when I press the trunk release the e-Brake light indicator on
the dash turns on and does not release the trunk lock.

-I'm disappointed that the hood vents were not cut out.

On a professional note I hope we can solve this in a timely manner.

David

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Now I'm done posting my personal experience and moving on. I will be post information regarding the body mod.

David
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Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Blacktree on April 26, 2008, 12:36:22 PM
I personally have no need to pay someone else for an engine swap or fiberglass work. I was talking in a general sense, as in "V8 Archie is the guy to go to for a V8 swap".

So it would appear that he had your coolant topped off with the wrong type, and then tried to deny it. That is wrong. This, combined with his other antics during this build, has ruined any respect I had for the guy. Yeah, I actually did have some respect for him... emphasis on "did".

Oh, and just for the record... if anyone were to make castings of MY car's bodywork without my permission (and charge me for it to boot!), there would be Hell to pay!  >:(

Anyway, I look forward to seeing the FGT in person. Maybe I can help you iron out some of the rough spots.  :-\


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Archie on April 27, 2008, 09:34:49 PM
David, I think everyone who has been paying attention to the subject knows that the reason you're throwing out so much crap is that you think you were overcharged on the mirror installation & you're trying to get even now.

Now you've made a lot of accusations & insinuated that I cheated you. You say that I didn't do certain things that you had paid for & you've stated that I made molds off of parts from your car.

You've made it clear in your various posts on CFF & PFF & other places that you're looking for an arguement. I don't care to argue with you, however, I will present my side of the story.

You'll recall on PFF on 2-10-08 you stated that you'd do the mirror installation yourself when you got the car back to FL. You claim that you asked for a quote on the mirrors on 2-8-08. Between that date & the point where you said you'd do them yourself, there was plenty of discussion about the mirrors & installtion of them on PFF. That discussion was part of the process of what it would take to install them. No one can give you an accurate quote without 1st understanding what it will take to make them right.

You also stated in another post that same day that we were to discontinue any additional work.

I was good with that & quite happy that we were not going to have to put countless hours into making those mirrors work.

About 2 days later, you called up & said to go ahead & install the mirrors. You didn't ask for a quote at that time, you just told me to install them.

One of the things you left out of the mirror discussion was an EMail I sent you on 2-27-08. This was after the mirrors were done when you questioned why the cost was what it was.

Quote
Installing the decklid scoop is a lot easier to estimate how much time it'll take because it's pretty straight forward. Cutting a hole for a vent under the decklid scoop, building a little dam to protect that hole, glassing on the scoop & making the center ramp & extending the 2 points on the scoop & sanding it enough to make it look presentable is going to take about 20 hours (15 hours if we make it bolt on like a lot of the Mustang decklid scoop guys do).

If I remember correctly, you pulled me off of the mirror job when we were still trying to determine what it would take to mount them. When you called to tell me to go ahead & mount them, you didn't ask for a quote & by that I understood & you should have understood that it was based on how long it was going to take to get them done right.  The amount of it took to do the modifications to the mounting bases & to sand them & make them look right is likely more than I would have estimated it would take before we did them.

It is impossible to take something like those mirrors & accurately quote how long it's going to take to mount them properly until you've actually done something like it before. For example, mounting NSX headlights cost Troy a hell of a lot more than what it cost to do yours. Another example is the decklid wings we ordered from Fiero Warehouse  for Troy's & Curley's cars. The 1st one we installed was on Troy's car, the 2nd one was on Curley's car. I can tell you for sure, it cost a lot less to install the one on Curley's car than it did on Troy's car. Now that we've made a mold off of the wing, the one we installed on your car was pocket change compared to Troy's & Curley's.

As far as your mirrors, I gotta tell you that there's no way in God's green earth that we're ever going to install another set of them. So for what it's worth, you'll be able to say for a long time that you're the only one with a set of those mirrors mounted correctly & with care on a Fiero.

Sorry for the long message, I got carried away typing.

Have a good one, I'll email pics of the progress tomorrow.

Archie


You'll also recall that in the same phone conversation you told me to quit posting to the PFF build thread.

Now let's cover some of your other subjects........

Quote
THE BAD
Lack of quality control. Surprising since Archie worked in aeronautic parts mfg as quality assurance for more than 10 years if I'm not mistaken. Simple things like cutting out the hood vent were not done. The rockers lip that lays on the inner part of the door frame has a gap of more or less 1/4". I will have to pay some extra to fix this. Archie does NOT like to give estimates. I was able to get a solid quote from Archie for the first $12.5k. These tasks had a low to high price in case it took longer, which I imagined from the beginning it would and was fine since I had solid maximum price. We ran into several issues during the customization process which is normal but the lack of communication played a huge roll. In some occasion Archie would yell and cuss on the phone due to his frustration. I had to beg him to do custom modifications my way not his. No guidance from him at all. Only constant complaining.


When you said to discontinue all additional work on 2-10-08, the vents in the hood scoops had not been cut open. When you turned us back onto the mirror installation, you made it clear that the mirrors & the sideburns were all you wanted us to work on.

I may have raised my voice but I didn't cuss at you on the phone.

It is quite frustrating when we took on your job it was supposed to be a "fill-in" job where we worked on it as open time became available. But with you starting & stopping the job by posting your orders to me on the Internet like you were at the drive up window at Burger King, I was getting very frustrated.

Quote
THE UGLY
Communication worsen so I kept a log. He would NOT reply to most of my emails, return phone calls, or reply to a simple question on my on my PFF build thread, which he didn't want to do it the way I requested and end me costing me more money. One of his excuses was "Kris is going to get mad! And will cost you 10 more hours". I noticed discrepancies in the labor cost from verbal to on paper but was fine to a point until the Diablo replica mirror incident on PFF (Feb '08). The complaining, yelling, rudeness, lack of email replies and no return phone calls got out of control.


Keeping a log for the reasons you state is called keeping a hate book. If you check your Hate Book, you'll see that the reason Kris was going to be upset was because you had just finished changing your mind for the 35rd time on the subject of glassing or bolting on the nose. Originally the plan called for glassing on the nose. Then, without giving a reason, you ordered me to bolt the front clip on. Then you saw a picture of Troy's front clip removed from the car, you inquired about that & found that Troy's clip was designed to be removable. Then you were told that I don't design anything that can't be serviceable. You then found that pics I had sent you several weeks earlier, showed the separation line where the front clip was designed to be removable. That was when you decided once again to have us glass on the front bumper. That day you switched us back to glassing it on was the same day Kris had finished all the work it took to make the nose a perfect fit as a bolt on. That's why I told you he'd be mad. You talk about wasting money. If you had explained from the start why you had switched from glassing it on to bolting it on, I could have saved you some money there. I think you were too interested in your Hate Book than you were in communicating some of the reasons you were making the decisions you were making.

Quote
On top of all this I received a PM stating that he made molds of my modified IMSA front bumper and my choptop sail panels which I paid for the R&D. Just doesn't surprise me.


This is the one that pizzes me off the most. I don't believe you got a PM to that effect. Only 2 or 3 people have been in my shop & have seen the finished Turbo scoops & none of those people would have sent you a PM telling you that I had copied them. As for copying your front clip. Everyone knows you were (& are still) trying to copy Troy's car. If I was going to copy a front clip, I would have gotten premission from Troy and copied an original & not your copy. Besides, anyone who knows anything about making molds would know that copying the front clip would take at least 3 weeks. If you look at the pics that were posted on your CFF thread, on your PFF thread, on other threads  & at the pics I sent you on 2-15-08, 2-29-08, 3-31-08 & 4-1-08. Not only are all these pictures that I sent you when you said I wasn't communicating, some of them you photoshopped the CFF logo on the side of my trailer. All this while I wasn't communicating with you. If you check all those posts & all those pictures, then add in all the pics of other projects I took where your car can be seen in the background, you'll see that there never was enough time between pics to take molds off of your copy of Troy's car.

Tell the truth, who said I copied those items?

Quote
Archie burned this bridge.


And everytime you call me V-8 Grouchie, you've burned another bridge.

Koenig355, his normal shop rate is $50 p/hr but if your doing multiple items he may discount it to $40 p/hr. Yes I'm going to move on.

Blacktree, Do you really need him for V8 swaps or for fiberglass body work? No. And if Nixon Chop Top Fiero can get going again thats solves that part of the puzzle.

Now I was reviewing my side photo shots of FGT since I'm going to make more mods to the rear of the widebody (IMO looks bland, needs some spice), I noticed V8A never fixed the left rocker side burn behind the front wheel >:( Right side seems to have been done. AGAIN, THIS IS WHY YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CUSTOM SHOP IS IN DRIVING DISTANT.

PFF reply from V8A regarding issue.
([url]http://centralfloridafieros.net/forum/gallery/CT25/zLinesPFF.jpg[/url])

RIGHT SIDE seems to have been fixed.
([url]http://centralfloridafieros.net/forum/gallery/CT25/zRT_lines.jpg[/url])

LEFT SIDE not fixed.
([url]http://centralfloridafieros.net/forum/gallery/CT25/zLT_lines.jpg[/url])

And yes I paid for this too >:(. I have attached my final detailed invoice.

EDIT: download attachment


Now here you're saying I charged you for something I didn't do........

Once again, you owe me an apology. When you're looking down on the sideburn from above, it will appear to be at an angle. I explained that in a post to the PFF thread on 2-8-08.

But, you know it was fixed correctly because I sent you pictures (via EMail) of the fix on 2-29-08 picture 7945.

You claim I didn't communicate with you, then you ignore pics that i sent you during the time I supposedly wasn't communicating.

When you look at it level, you can see it's straight as an arrow.

(http://www.v8archie.com/pip/DSCN7945_(Small).JPG)

The Text in the EMail with the above pics said
Quote
Just about done.

Got the Sideburn, 1/4 panel lines lined up on both sides of car.

Got to final install the side marker lights.

Going to pick up a few cans of primer this weekend so we can spray bomb some primer on it to make it presentable.

Just a couple of hours monday  & we'll be done.

Archie


And finally........

Final email from V8A regarding concerns and issues. Never heard back what Kris thought regarding the electrical issue with the trunk release.

-----Original Message-----
From: Archie@v8archie.com [mailto:Archie@v8archie.com]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:19 PM
To: DavidM
Cc: V8ARCHIE@aol.com
Subject: Re: FGT Questions

When we replaced the reservoir tank it was empty & we never took the rad cap
off so we never knew it was Dex-cool nor would we know that it was low. We
didn't work on the engine or cooling system (& it never leaked any coolant
on the floor) so we had no reason to suspect that it was low & no reason to
actually check it since we we weren't doing anything to the car that would
require that we drive it.

I'll look into the trunk release, are you talking about pressing the trunk
release on the remote or on the dash? If it's the dash, I would suspect that
one of the headlight or side marker light loose wires are touching someplace
giving a feedback. that kinds of stuff is pretty common on Fieros when all
the lighting is not hooked up. But I'll ask Kris & Rob about it.

I'm disappointed about a lot of things too. When you were here in Feb. to
inspect the car the hood vents were not cut then & the primer was on it at
that time. I just assumed that it met your approval at that time, sorry.

Archie


----- Original Message -----
From: <DavidM>
To: <Archie@v8archie.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:08 PM
Subject: FGT Questions

Archie,

-What was done with the engine cooling system, I mean the radiator coolant
(antifreeze)? Why is it green? I noticed it in the reservoir. I had orange
coolant (Dex-Cool) and the levels of antifreeze seem to be very low to none
in the radiator and hoses running to and from.

-Also noticed when I press the trunk release the e-Brake light indicator on
the dash turns on and does not release the trunk lock.

-I'm disappointed that the hood vents were not cut out.

On a professional note I hope we can solve this in a timely manner.

David

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Now I'm done posting my personal experience and moving on. I will be post information regarding the body mod.

David
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Talk about lack of communication.

Today is the 1st time I got any kind of indication that you even rec'd. my email above from 4-7-08.

Notice how I ask a question about if your problem was with the remote or the dash switch..... (when someone uses a "?" that means he's asking a question that you could respond to if you are exercising good communication.

You also could have responded to my comments on the cooling system........ Are you trying to make it look like I sabatoged your car by going out of my way to drain your cooling system?

Why didn't you respond to that email?

Now, if you'd like, I'll post up all the details about what we did with the mirrors, so you can get over that. However, considering that you've started trying to trash me all over the Internet, you are not given permission to use any more of my images in your postings.

Archie



Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Archie on April 27, 2008, 09:58:30 PM
You know, I gotta add a few things.

I never charged you for one minute of MY OWN Time I spent on your car.

We never a penny for the 10 or 12 hours we spent trying to get those 'Vette lights to fit you car.

We trail fitted & took pics of Chuck's wheel on your car, never charged a penny.

We trail fitted & took pics & measurements of Curley's wheel on your car, never charged a penny.

We did the same thing for another set of wheels, again at no charge.

Yet, you trash me.

Archie


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Koenig355 on April 28, 2008, 08:02:09 AM
Gentlemen  .............after reading both sides  of this story it is sad that it has come down to this and my thought is that there was a lack of communication on both sides however small  that grew to this and bashing each other will not help the situation either.Mudslinging only adds  fuel to the fire  so just call it a wash and both party just move on after all we are grown men and not little boys that choose to fuss and fight.

No matter what is done not all customer will be 100% happy  and this is such a case  but Dave at least you are ahead  with the way you wanted your car  to look  so what is left  you can finish to your satisfaction and to Archie in future  to avoid a situation like this make sure there is a clear understanding of what is to be done  at least both side will smile ;D


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Blacktree on April 28, 2008, 09:51:55 AM
I have to agree with that. Let's get on with our lives, shall we?


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 28, 2008, 11:00:46 AM
I'm biting my tongue and have my reply, saved emails, and PFF build thread quotes ready but you guys are right, I'm moving on. Not worth wasting my time with this lack of professionalism.

He just dosen't get it and never will.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Billybo455 on April 28, 2008, 07:04:50 PM
it's life.  i got bashed by archie in a thread awhile back and i don't know why.  back on subject.  your car is pretty close to being done.  just enjoy it and be happy you have it.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 28, 2008, 07:40:16 PM
I'm on a very short fuse right now >:(. Yes close to being done. I'm going to make a major change to the rear of the widebody quater panel area (fender, rocker, bumper). I already have a high res detailed photo chop sample. I will be posting it later on "The CFF Lounge" for feed back.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 01, 2008, 03:14:23 PM
What's Up at Archie's (Page 54)
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000046-54.html#p2129 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000046-54.html#p2129)
Great I'm headless now...  ::)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9791/zheadless.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zheadless.jpg)

We Build a Perfect Union (Page 36)
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000047-36.html#p1400 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000047-36.html#p1400)
inside joke... I wonder who's car they are talking about?...  ::) This answers lots of questions...
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2715/zcccopy.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zcccopy.jpg)
Some people are just so immature.

EDIT:
07/21/2010 Updated PFF links.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Archie on May 03, 2008, 05:26:11 PM
David, you're being a jerk.

You're not representing your Club very well.

You claimed you were going get over it.

Yet you're posting crap all over the internet.

Now you're even closing threads on this forum in which other customers of mine are posting.

I've tried addressing your problems in answers to your EMail, but you ignored it.

I tried by posting the same answers earlier in this thread & you just post more crap up on other forums.

Instead of spreading crap all over the internet. Grow up already.

Why don't you just step up & discuss it like a man instead of scratching on the chalkboard like spoiled little kid?

Archie


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: SAFASTRO on June 07, 2008, 11:03:56 PM
Any updates, or ideas that are running through your head?
What did you have planned for the bumper idea??


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Archie on June 08, 2008, 10:29:06 PM
Nope, he's been too busy representing CFF on other forums.

Either that or he's been spotted driving my Finale

You pick

[picture removed]

<Archie, you should know better than to post crap like this>


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: DIY_Stu on June 09, 2008, 12:04:30 AM
Now that's a low blow.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FerociousGTO on June 09, 2008, 06:36:47 AM
Archie GrouCHIE in your own words... "Cry me a river!".

Yes, and we all know you LOVE to visit Real Fiero Tech.
http://realfierotech.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12654&start=40


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Blacktree on June 09, 2008, 10:52:12 AM
Last time I checked, this was a build thread, not a pissing contest. Let's continue on with the build thread, shall we?


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Archie on June 09, 2008, 03:35:33 PM
You need to ask David where that picture came from.

If it's good enough for David to post stuff like that up on the Internet because he is mad about something he has been posting about here, then it's good enough to be in this thread.

I know it's offensive, but it's a picture that David decided to post rather than to civilly discuss his issues that he made public here.

I don't care if you agree or not. But his method of discussing the merits of his comments that he made public in this thread, is to post up insulting images around the Internet. Good business or not he's going to get the same treatment in response.

Archie


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on August 21, 2008, 12:10:57 PM
Possibly resolving past issues with Archie with thrid part intervention (MadCurls). Stay tuned.
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5457/tvsnow.gif)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FerociousGTO on October 06, 2008, 09:59:40 AM
- I decieded not to pursue on a resolution with Archie for several reasons. Thanks for all the help from MC but not worth my time and will cost me more money.

- Status on the car coming down to FL... Unknown at this point.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Blacktree on October 06, 2008, 01:56:49 PM
If you don't mind me asking, what's stopping you from bringing down the car?


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: avengador1 on November 06, 2008, 05:01:20 PM
Is this car down in Florida yet? I'd like to get to see it. 8)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FerociousGTO on November 06, 2008, 10:14:29 PM
Sorry guys missed the last two posts. As I mention tonight before the meeting I spoke with Traci's mom (my X). She will be releasing the car this Sunday and Duwayne (friend) will take it up to his shop (Wilmot Auto Service in WI) then Tues or Wed Exotic Transports will pick it up. It's been a challenge coordinating with all three but the clock is finally ticking.

Clock is now ticking...
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3361/warehouselakevillail.th.jpg) (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warehouselakevillail.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Pluggo on November 07, 2008, 09:22:27 AM
Finally!


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on November 10, 2008, 11:28:03 AM
Update!
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3020/ect.th.gif) (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ect.gif)

Picked up yesterday (directly from warehouse) and on the way down... Finally!

EDIT: Update #2!
11/10/08 -Will be here tomorrow afternoon  :)

EDIT: Update #3!
11/11/08 -Chris the transporter (sounds like a movie) from Exotic called. He will be in between 3pm - 4pm for the drop off. He mention while picking up and dropping off other cars on the way down several customers were inquiring about FGT. I spent 10 minutes on the phone answering all his questions about it.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: 85LAMB on November 10, 2008, 12:02:57 PM
 :D
Congratulations !!!!
I am looking forward to seeing it in person.

l
Looks like we might have a couple of more cars at the meeting.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on November 10, 2008, 06:34:11 PM


Congratulations Dave,...definatly been a long time coming ! Hopefully i will be joining you this time next month !


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Nathrak on November 10, 2008, 11:25:16 PM
WOOT!!!!!!!!! ;D :o 8)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on November 11, 2008, 12:18:18 PM



Can't wait to see those delivery pics hehehehehe !!!


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on November 11, 2008, 05:09:39 PM
Chris from Exotic Car Transport dropped off FGT @ 4pm today.
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1607/chrisexotic.th.jpg) (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chrisexotic.jpg)

FINALLY!

Blake, check your PM.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Blacktree on November 11, 2008, 05:31:08 PM
ROCK ON!!!  8)

You're going to bring it to the next club meeting, right?


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: madcurls on November 11, 2008, 06:22:24 PM
It's about time!  Now hurry up and buy some 19/20 combo. ;)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: madcurls on November 11, 2008, 06:27:15 PM
I see you didn't take any chances with the mirrors being on the car.  I can't wait to see it. What color do you plan on painting it?


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Koenig355 on November 11, 2008, 06:29:28 PM
(http://deephousepage.com/smilies/jackson.gif)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: draco24433 on November 11, 2008, 07:57:15 PM
You better bring it to the next club meeting. No riding the bicycle.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on November 12, 2008, 12:52:10 AM

more pics, more pics !!!!!  ;D

BTW i see what you mean about the car being low !! WOW !

You are going to have to be really careful, no speed bumps hehehe.

Might a skid pad help ?


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on November 12, 2008, 01:02:16 PM
more pics, more pics !!!!!  ;D

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6991/storagefront.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=storagefront.jpg) - (http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3649/storagerear.th.jpg) (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=storagerear.jpg)
Guys, not sure if I will be ready for the next meeting. Need to resolve the non-exsisten ODBII harness  issue first :(


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Blacktree on November 13, 2008, 12:25:08 AM
Then we'll just hold the meeting at your house. ;)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Nathrak on November 13, 2008, 10:05:59 PM
Oh now that is a stellar idea.  ;D


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on November 14, 2008, 11:07:38 AM
FGT is curretly at a different location. As soon as I put back together my notchback thats in the garage I'll move FGT home so you guys can stop by.

Met up with Linc last night to review the car.

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6264/lincfgt01.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lincfgt01.jpg) -(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4620/lincfgt02.th.jpg) (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lincfgt02.jpg) - (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/397/lincfgt03.th.jpg) (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lincfgt03.jpg)

These are some of the things we saw:
- Seat was not lowered for the choptop. (I questioned this and was told it is lowered by (http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7871/archieface.gif))
- Front/Rear bumper impact egg crates are missing. (does anyome have a set I can have?).
- Wrong coolant was added (green stuff instead of orange). Have to flush the cooling sys.
- Pin holes on the body (given).
- Gaps in between the fiberglass parts (going to take lots of work).
- Left front fender side burn is crooked (I thought so).
- Hood vent not cut out (always some excuse why it wasn't done).

I have also decided to scrap the Diablo mirrors due to it bothers me way too much every time I see them anywhere.

EDIT:
This is why you want to be in driving distance from the shop working on your car so you can check up on the work being done.   :angry:  :crybaby:


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on November 14, 2008, 06:36:41 PM

Linc,

You sure look like a natural fit in that chopper !  (nudge, nudge)   ;)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: 85LAMB on November 14, 2008, 07:06:33 PM
Tony
As you can see I was pretty happy in there     ;D


David
As I told you yesterday, get some wheels on it and drive it....
I know I would.   :)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: madcurls on November 16, 2008, 02:29:28 PM
Hey David, don't forget to purchase screens for the Mad-Arch vents.

(http://www.v8archie.com/pip/DSCN9987_(Small)_1.JPG)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on November 17, 2008, 07:26:50 PM
Hey David, don't forget to purchase screens for the Mad-Arch vents.

([url]http://www.v8archie.com/pip/DSCN9987_(Small)_1.JPG)[/url]

I'm debating that.

This evening I picked up one of my Diablo replica mirrors to photograph and list on Craigs List and ebay... Guess what, the wire harness to the mirror's motor was never put back in.  :angry: Conclusion: You have people that don't give a sh!t and then you have V8-archie.  :( The bad part is these mirrors where imported from Brazil. Don't worry about it archie, I will be in Daytona '09 doing your marketing.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/085825-7.html#p252 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/085825-7.html#p252)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: madcurls on November 29, 2008, 03:17:59 PM
Anything new to report? ;)  Mirrors, wheels, tweaks?


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: DIY_Stu on November 30, 2008, 01:48:41 PM
Anything new to report? ;)  Mirrors, wheels, tweaks?

What does "Devue" mean?


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on December 06, 2008, 01:36:22 PM
(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3355/dec08chuck.th.jpg) (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dec08chuck.jpg)
Thanks Chuck, FGT is back at the house.  :)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FIERORUSS on December 10, 2008, 02:36:55 PM
you passed me with your wide body on a trailer. looking good!


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FerociousGTO on December 18, 2008, 06:40:33 PM
Working on RX8 mirrors and NRG (http://www.getnrg.com/products/index.php#block1) quick release steering wheel kit. I hope next week Dan (Custom Fiberglass) comes up to CFL to review FGT to finish the exterior fiberglass.

(SRK-170H) NRG SHORT HUB PONTIAC FIERO
(SRK-250BK) NRG 2.5 QUICK RELEASE BLACK
USD $220 free s/h
http://www.WeakSauceParts.com/ (http://www.WeakSauceParts.com/)

MOMO Competition 350mm on back order :(


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on December 21, 2008, 04:17:53 PM
RX-8 mirrors are on...  :D
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9443/rx8mirror.th.jpg) (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rx8mirror.jpg) - (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1821/rx8mirrorfold.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rx8mirrorfold.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on December 21, 2008, 11:38:26 PM


Sweet !   ;D


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Koenig355 on December 22, 2008, 08:10:32 PM
Bam .......im here  these looks much better than the previous mirrors.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: 2002z28ssconv on December 28, 2008, 09:33:14 AM
FYI on the OBDII connector...
From Pennocks...
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/087655-3.html (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/087655-3.html) (about 3/4 of the way down the page)

Quote
Originally posted by FIEROFLYER:
Just get get an OBD II data link connector from a Grand prix or other 3800 series II car and wire it into the harness, I wire them in to be mounted in the stock location but they can be wired in to be mounted any where. I say get them from GP's or other 3800 cars because some of the other cars like the Sunfires have a different connector it still has the same electrical connection but does not have the holes for mounting the connector like the GP ones have.
For wiring the connector needs +12 volts battery, two wires to ground and the connection to the PCM (purple wire in most cases). Any other wires on this connector are not used in the Fiero swap they are for things like the radio or the heater system. Dan




Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on December 28, 2008, 10:03:15 PM
Thansk guys for the comments on the mirrors and Chuck for the info on the ODB II. I'll review it this week. This past Friday Dan (custom fiberglass from Bradenton, FL) stopped by to review FGT regarding the completion of the exterior and possible duplication of some parts. More info later...
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5924/dangulfcoast.th.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dangulfcoast.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on December 29, 2008, 12:17:49 AM

Cool,

If things work out with you, then i will probably be using him also to do some work on #4 after it arrives.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/exoticse/DSCN0184_Small_2.jpg)

P.S. Dave, i will call you sometime this week to chat about a couple of things.



Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on January 02, 2009, 08:26:43 AM
January's club meeting was small, only six members. After the pizza we all went to my house to see FGT. I received lots of positive & negative feedback. Thanks for the honesty.
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3481/jan09meeting.th.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jan09meeting.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Koenig355 on January 02, 2009, 02:42:25 PM
What were the negatives.....just curious.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: 2002z28ssconv on January 02, 2009, 11:01:07 PM
Too hard to get in and out. Not enough head room...  ;) :P


Sorry I missed it. I completely forgot. I even made pizza at home last night. My subconcious was trying to tell me it was time for pizza but I just wasn't listening...


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on January 12, 2009, 03:40:53 PM
New toy ! :D

Axis Matrix (http://www.axiswheels.com/view-wheel/axis-matrix) 18x8/+40mm for the front. Test fit was perfect!
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2087/axismatrix18x840.th.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=axismatrix18x840.jpg)

Now time to order the rest and tires... YES!

PS
The body is in the works as I post!

EDIT:
05/27/2011
Axis Matrix 18" size has been discontinued.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on January 13, 2009, 12:12:42 AM


Sweet !  :P
 


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: 85LAMB on January 13, 2009, 08:26:38 AM
I am looking forward to seeing the car with ther wheels, it's going to look great  :)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Koenig355 on January 13, 2009, 01:09:18 PM
Now you need some real rotors and calipers  to fill them out  14" Viper Set ups  ;) ;).


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on January 14, 2009, 09:42:36 PM
Now you need some real rotors and calipers  to fill them out  14" Viper Set ups  ;) ;).

O yes, I will le tyou know. :)

New toy today...
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9797/momoh.th.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=momoh.jpg)
http://www.WeakSauceParts.com/ (http://www.WeakSauceParts.com/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on January 20, 2009, 09:31:31 PM
More new toys with rubber ;)
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7466/axis01.th.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=axis01.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on January 20, 2009, 11:37:23 PM


Man that was fast !

looking good !  :o

What are the wheel and tire sizes ?


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FieroGTRwidebody on January 27, 2009, 10:05:31 AM
Looking good man, congrats. I like the wheels and tires. They have some meat on them. Good to see u have been reunited  with it for some time.  :)

-ALex


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FieroGTRwidebody on January 27, 2009, 10:07:57 AM
Wanted to say good decision on the wheel sizes. Some times the 20's and bigger look disproportional to the Fiero. I like your choice, tires are more manageable too. Plus no worries about pot holes too.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on February 02, 2009, 11:33:30 PM


Dave have you looked into the computer input issue yet ?


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 03, 2009, 09:53:15 AM
After the body is done, the wheels are on, will wire the ODB II harness to the computer and then this money pit is going on the back burned until next year.  :-[


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 04, 2009, 10:17:30 AM
I'm in a happy mood today.... Got my wheel adapters. :)
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2699/wheeladapters.th.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheeladapters.jpg)

Specs:
3/4" (19.05mm) thick.
5x100/57.1mm center to 5x114.3/73.1 mm center.
Hubcentric on both sides.

Cost was $155 for two adaptors, ten nuts and shipped. Took about a week and a half.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 04, 2009, 09:41:15 PM
Wheel adaptor is 3/4" or 19.05mm. The Fiero wheel bolts are 1" long. I had to graind them down to 3/4" due to the adpator thickness. This WILL differ for the pre 1988 Fieros using the MC widebody. Car-2-Lo (aka John) (http://www.westcoastfieros.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133&PN=1) in Canada (Pre 1988 Fiero) widebody is 2.5" wide (http://www.westcoastfieros.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133&PN=1&TPN=4) and his wheel adaptors are 1 1/2" or 38.1mm thick (if I'm not mistaken). MC's widebody is 2.5" wide but due to my car is a 1988 Fiero... I did the math (more info on page 2 (http://hhttp://centralfloridafieros.com/forum/index.php?topic=3.msg214#msg214) wheel tests), what a nightmare!  :o
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8662/wheeladp01.th.jpg) (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheeladp01.jpg)

The tire sticks out less then < 1/4" from the top fender arc.
(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4108/wheeladp02.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheeladp02.jpg) - (http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3433/wheeladp03.th.jpg) (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheeladp03.jpg) - (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4601/wheeladp04.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheeladp04.jpg)

I paid for all four wheels and tires under -$2500 (tires mounted, balanced and shipped) from www.GetYourWheels.com (http://www.GetYourWheels.com) in California. The sales and support team (John & Peter) where great!

Wheel Specs
Axis Matrix
Front: 18x8/+40mm offset, 5x100 BP.
Rear: 20x10.5/+35mm offset, 5x114.3 BP. (Nissan 350Z)

Tires
Toyo T1-R
Front: 225/40/R18
Rear: 305/30/R20

Wheel/Tire Diameters:
Front: 25"
Rear: 27.2"


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on February 05, 2009, 12:11:05 AM


DAMNNNNNNNNN !!!!

Dave i love the wheels,..great job !!

Is the fit about what you had hoped for ?

looks pretty darned good to me.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on February 08, 2009, 10:43:24 PM


A little birdie told me the wheels look totally bada ** in  person.

More pics !!


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: SAFASTRO on February 10, 2009, 11:24:29 AM
Hey Dave!!!
Those mirrors are the best I've seen yet!! I'm surprised more people haven't commented on them after the big fiasco on the last mirrors. These are by far more superior! What kind of mods did it take to get them to fit, and.......if you don't mind me asking........where did you find em and how much did they set you back??
Those wheels look like the perfect fit as well.......can't wait to see this thing in full view....with wheels......any pics???


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 19, 2009, 11:12:51 AM
Thanks FieroGTRwidebody (Alex), I don't like the rubber band tires (pot hole danger) and I do agree with no more then 20" (20" is pushing it).

exoticse (Tony), no new updates (body & wheel pics) yet. Work on FGTO will continue today.

SAFASTRO, RX-8 mirros on ebay where less < $100 for the pair. I had to trim off lots of the plastic with a dremel... Seems like they are going to work out. Advise: just stick with the OEM mirrors they still look real real good.

New update Coil Over adjustment. I orded a Moroso Coil Over Shock Adjusting Spanner Wrench (#62030) on ebay for less then < $30.

Tools used to adjust coil overs:

-Spanner wrench
-1/8" allen wrench ("L" shaped)
-Can of WD40 to lossen 1/8" allen bolt
-Measuring Caliper

Hardly used the spanner wrench. Rear coil overs are adjustable by hand. The funny thing is some shop owner in Machesney Park, IL said he tried to adjust the hight on the coil overs but was too difficult. He mention that the cradle would have to be dropped to adjust them (rears) and to let him know if I'm able and how difficult they are to adjust... That didn't sound right to me. I should have saved those emails.
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/327/coilover001.th.jpg) (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coilover001.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Blacktree on February 19, 2009, 08:07:32 PM

The funny thing is some shop owner in Machesney Park, IL said he tried to adjust the hight on the coil overs but was too difficult. He mention that the cradle would have to be dropped to adjust them (rears) and to let him know if I'm able and how difficult they are to adjust...
Now THAT is funny!  ::)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: 2002z28ssconv on February 20, 2009, 12:57:52 PM
You were sure to let him know how easy it was, right?  ::)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 20, 2009, 07:36:01 PM
You were sure to let him know how easy it was, right?  ::)
I think I mention this to you the day you lent me your trailer to pick up the notchback from Gainesville. I remember how easy you adjusted your coilover on your race car ('88 nothcback) to get it off the trailer that day. I sure will let him know on my PFF build thread once I update it when the current work is completed on FGTO. I got to be nice and educate the guy... ehh right?! ;)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 01, 2009, 12:25:30 PM
UPDATE: Body repairs almost complete. Once done will post Before/After photos with details on what was done and the total amount of hours spent.
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2523/washmefgto.th.jpg) (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=washmefgto.jpg)
Almost there... 8)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on March 02, 2009, 10:36:55 AM


Looking forward to seeing this one !


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: avengador1 on March 02, 2009, 11:36:18 AM
So all the edge "rat nibbles" are gone? ;) You can even see them in the pictures Archie took.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Koenig355 on March 02, 2009, 02:29:06 PM
Sure looks better already especially with the new shoes even with the odd pic angle he deserves an (http://deephousepage.com/smilies/spank2.gif)





Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: SAFASTRO on March 02, 2009, 02:30:55 PM
Dave.....your car in the above pic is looking BADASS!!!

"rat nibbles" hahaha!!!!!  :P   What about the sun warped fiberglass???

Keep your eye on the prize!!!


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 02, 2009, 02:47:39 PM
Looking forward to seeing this one !

Maybe at the next meeting you guys can come over.

So all the edge "rat nibbles" are gone? ;) You can even see them in the pictures Archie took.

LOL. They are gone. The weird thing is it was only on the right side.

Sure looks better already especially with the new shoes even with the odd pic angle he deserves an ([url]http://deephousepage.com/smilies/spank2.gif[/url])

The new shoes made a difference and didn't have to spent mega bucks gettings HRE's or other three piece wheels.

Dave.....your car in the above pic is looking BADASS!!!

"rat nibbles" hahaha!!!!!  :P   What about the sun warped fiberglass???

Keep your eye on the prize!!!

It hasn't been in the sun at all... It's always was in a warehouse (North IL), garage (Central FL), and enclosed transport. Maybe it was the cold? ;) I'm suprised Al Gore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inconvenient_Truth) didn't get blamed. ;)

Guy's & gals, I promise I won't bring up the issues I had with the shop in Machesney Park, IL anymore. I know it's getting old... very old and dragged out. I'm just glad FGTO (aka "rat nibbles") ;) exterior body is getting done right.

I'll have some photos up soon and this thread we be moved from the private CFF Lounge into the public area of the forum.
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4047/fgtobodyoff.th.jpg) (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgtobodyoff.jpg)

Highlights of some of the body issues from V8-Archies quality workmanship... :angry:
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9523/deckbefore01.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deckbefore01.jpg) - (http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3369/decklidbefore01.th.jpg) (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=decklidbefore01.jpg) - (http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9895/doorgapleftbefore01.th.jpg) (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorgapleftbefore01.jpg) - (http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7540/doorpanelbefore01.th.jpg) (http://img269.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorpanelbefore01.jpg)

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5792/doorpanelbefore02.th.jpg) (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorpanelbefore02.jpg) - (http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5568/doorpanelbefore03.th.jpg) (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorpanelbefore03.jpg) - (http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1769/frontfenderbefore01.th.jpg) (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frontfenderbefore01.jpg) - (http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9273/frontfenderbefore02.th.jpg) (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frontfenderbefore02.jpg)

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8096/groundeffectsbefore01.th.jpg) (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=groundeffectsbefore01.jpg) - (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/903/headlightsbefore01.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=headlightsbefore01.jpg) - (http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/347/hoodbefore01.th.jpg) (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hoodbefore01.jpg) - (http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4706/hoodbefore02.th.jpg) (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hoodbefore02.jpg)

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9702/hoodgapbefore01.th.jpg) (http://img269.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hoodgapbefore01.jpg) - (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8776/rearbumper01before.th.jpg) (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rearbumper01before.jpg) - (http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4563/rearbumper02before.th.jpg) (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rearbumper02before.jpg) - (http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1786/rearclipbefore01.th.jpg) (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rearclipbefore01.jpg)

(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2217/rearclipbefore02.th.jpg) (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rearclipbefore02.jpg) - (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6006/rearfasciabefore01.th.jpg) (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rearfasciabefore01.jpg) - (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/203/sailpanelbefore011.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sailpanelbefore011.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: drumwzrd on March 02, 2009, 10:51:51 PM
Car is looking awesome. In regards to the coil over adjustments.....maybe he was trying to save you another 47 hours of labor charges by not doing it   :-\


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on March 02, 2009, 11:20:39 PM


Dave is there a large wheel gap up front or is that just the angle of the picture ?

You have coilovers on all four corners ?


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 06, 2009, 04:35:55 PM
I still got to adjust the front coilovers a bit but no 47hr ;). Tony it's jacked up.  ;D
(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9223/marchewh.th.jpg) (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marchewh.jpg)

Almost there... teaser
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2784/marchoutside01.th.jpg) (http://img44.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marchoutside01.jpg) - (http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5880/marchoutside02.th.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marchoutside02.jpg) - (http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8292/marchoutside03.th.jpg) (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marchoutside03.jpg) - (http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/2738/marchoutside04.th.jpg) (http://img39.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marchoutside04.jpg)

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6513/marchoutside05.th.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marchoutside05.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: SAFASTRO on March 06, 2009, 11:07:50 PM
WOW Dave.......I think I might have a new favourite widebody!!!  :o
That thing is gonna snap some necks foresure!!!! Keep them updates comin'.


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: 85LAMB on March 07, 2009, 09:35:15 AM
 :D

The car looks awsome !

Did you drive it around the neighborhood ?
If you did, how did it feel ?


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: exoticse on March 07, 2009, 12:51:45 PM

Dave,

The car just looks stupid sick !

mirrors, i want mirrors !


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 07, 2009, 09:29:19 PM
I have to give thanks to Mike for the repairs on the body... Still working on it. Mirrors coming soon... Didn't drive it much, just a few feet away. Suspension is stiff.

Update: I can C in D dark! 6000k Xenons.
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9784/icanc.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=icanc.jpg)

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/671/gizmobl.jpg)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Koenig355 on March 08, 2009, 12:48:48 AM
Hey Dave now it is beginning to look like an exotic ,what more can I say adjective  are hard to find to describe the transformation but who has the last laugh now  (http://deephousepage.com/smilies/pointlaugh.gif)


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: Blacktree on March 23, 2009, 06:37:33 PM
Thanks for the props, Dave. It's pretty cool to be working on such a unique project.

To everyone else, the body work is 99.5% done. The body panels are fitted, mirrors installed, etc. Those RX-8 mirrors look really cool, too. IMO, they're perfect for the car.

Last time I was at Dave's place, he was tweaking the suspension. And I think he still has some wiring to do. Plus, I need to make a couple minor touches on the body work.


Title: Re: The FGTO chronicles
Post by: exoticse on March 31, 2009, 08:01:54 PM


Any new pictures with the mirrors installed ?


Title: Re: FierociousGT Build
Post by: madcurls on April 01, 2009, 11:53:22 PM

Almost there... teaser

Nice.  ;) End the end; it all comes out okay. As for D10.... represent!  Oh yeah, No love for Pennock's? Post #025 picks.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: DIY_Stu on April 05, 2009, 06:21:55 PM
Why would he post on Pennocks? so Cletus would bash him more and more.  Your cars are the reason Archie thinks he can call an incomplete car finished.  Cause you allow him to do it then it must be OK for everyone else. 


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on April 05, 2009, 07:13:07 PM
I agree with DIY_Stu. Archie will just keep pissing on Dave's PFF thread until he either gives up or the thread ends up in the trash can. Apparently, that's how Archie deals with unhappy customers.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on June 04, 2009, 12:05:05 PM
Alright folks, here's the latest mod to the FGTO. Dave decided that he wanted part of the nose to be removable, to provide more clearance when necessary. He also decided to nix the divider in the center of the grille.

To perform this mod, I basically just sliced the nose in half (along the top edge of the ground effects) and molded in flanges on both halves, so they could be bolted together.

Here are a couple shots of the nose cut in half.
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1508/nose01.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose01.jpg) - (http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4004/nose02.th.jpg) (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose02.jpg)

I decided that the best way to make the flanges on the two parts was to set one piece on a flat surface to make the flange on that one, and then use that piece as the mold for the second. Since the one flange
will be molded from the other, they should fit each other perfectly.

Dave's garage happens to have a large, flat surface which is really convenient to use... the floor. I put down some packing tape and traced out the outline of the nose piece on it.
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8383/nose03.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose03.jpg)

Here's the bottom nose piece sitting on the floor.
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6673/nose04.th.jpg) (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose04.jpg)

I then started molding in the fiberglass to make the flange. Here are a couple shots of the process.
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1999/nose05.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose05.jpg) - (http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/846/nose06.th.jpg) (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose06.jpg)

And finally, a couple shots of the newly modified ground effects piece.
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3987/nose07.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose07.jpg) - (http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3682/nose11.th.jpg) (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose11.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on June 04, 2009, 12:19:02 PM
Now that the bottom half is done, it's time to work on the top half. Like I mentioned previously, the bottom half was used as the mold for the top half. I covered it in packing tape, set the top piece on it, and went to work.
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8268/nose08.th.jpg) (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose08.jpg) - (http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8008/nose09.th.jpg) (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose09.jpg)

And here are a couple shots of the completed part.
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2075/nose10.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose10.jpg) - (http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1205/nose12.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose12.jpg)

At this point, the mod was basically done. But there was something that bugged me, and I just could not leave it be. When the front end was originally installed on the car, the air dam was molded into the nose. Unfortunately, the builder didn't take the time to make the bottom corner match the wheel well liner. See photo below.
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1241/nose13.th.jpg) (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose13.jpg)

I decided to fix that. First, I had to chop out the offending area to make way for new fiberglass. The photo below shows the part I had to cut out.
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4156/nose14.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose14.jpg)

I extended the lip all the way to the bottom, so the bottom screw hole on the wheel well liner has something to attach to. (and I just realized I forgot to take a photo of that)

And finally, here's a shot of the front end re-assembled.
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6792/nose16.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose16.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on June 04, 2009, 12:56:45 PM
Mike did a great job like always. The reasons for cutting the bumper are as follows:

1.- Clearance to get the jack under. :notworthy:
2.- Loading FGTO on a open trailer. :hillbilly:
3.- Nose repair if damaged. Hope not! :pray:
4.- Changing the look of the bumper by replacing the mouth peice. 0D

We ran into a dirty little secret cutting the bumper. :shhh:
(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6006/nose15.th.jpg) (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nose15.jpg)

Left->to->Right. Thin layer of fiberglass(v8Archies)->1/4" thick green bondo(v8Archies favorite bondo color)->fiberglass(FieroWarehouse). Bondo sandwich, why? :naughty: I'm glad I'm not the only Fiero thats coming out of that shop like that. Just sad craftsmanship...  :crybaby:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: SAFASTRO on June 04, 2009, 02:45:19 PM
WOW........great idea on splitting the nose like that!! And can't wait to see some chin spoiler mods.......Are you gonna make some molds for resell??

Nice snag Dave, on the bondo sandwich thing........


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on June 05, 2009, 10:37:39 AM

Dave the car just keeps getting better.

Mike (blacktree) outstanding work.

Guys if you need some glasswork,...Mike is the man.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: F355spider on June 07, 2009, 01:04:03 AM
Quote
It hasn't been in the sun at all... It's always was in a warehouse (North IL), garage (Central FL), and enclosed transport. Maybe it was the cold? ;) I'm suprised Al Gore ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inconvenient_Truth[/url]) didn't get blamed. ;)

Guy's & gals, I promise I won't bring up the issues I had with the shop in Machesney Park, IL anymore. I know it's getting old... very old and dragged out. I'm just glad FGTO (aka "rat nibbles") ;) exterior body is getting done right.

I'll have some photos up soon and this thread we be moved from the private CFF Lounge into the public area of the forum.
([url]http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4047/fgtobodyoff.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgtobodyoff.jpg[/url])

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4047/fgtobodyoff.th.jpg) (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgtobodyoff.jpg)

I like the Mazda mirrors they look good on the car. I noticed your rear clip was not fiber glassed back together under the sail panel window. I always glass it back together on my chop tops is this the normal work for the other guy?


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on June 07, 2009, 08:06:05 AM
WOW........great idea on splitting the nose like that!! And can't wait to see some chin spoiler mods.......Are you gonna make some molds for resell??

Nice snag Dave, on the bondo sandwich thing........

Not going to make molds. I gave up (waste of time), seems like no one knows what they want.

I like the Mazda mirrors they look good on the car. I noticed your rear clip was not fiber glassed back together under the sail panel window. I always glass it back together on my chop tops is this the normal work for the other guy?

I have no idea Mike. Part of V8-Archie's HACK JOB body work.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-9.html#p352 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-9.html#p352)

What I can tell you is I don't have cheap towel's on my door. Trying to figure this one out?
(http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5148/16654.th.jpg) (http://img357.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16654.jpg)
MadCurls #20


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: F355spider on June 11, 2009, 12:00:04 PM
I guess glassing it back like it was from GM takes more time and uses more material.  
I see another difference my window stop.
(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6265/bumpglass.th.jpg) (http://img151.imageshack.us/i/bumpglass.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: DIY_Stu on June 11, 2009, 10:05:40 PM
Looks like that could rattle or make a big clank when it hits.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on June 13, 2009, 09:39:02 PM
We are changing the rear deck scoop. I was never happy with the '79 Mustang scoop for this specific style Fiero, it's just too flat. We will be using the SRT-8 style scoop (has curves) which I originally planned on using but the boy's (plural) at the V8-archies shop in North IL said they didn't like it... so no. :thumbsdown:
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8653/deckscoop00.th.jpg) (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deckscoop00.jpg)

Widen the scoop total of 4".
(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6947/deckscoop01.th.jpg) (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deckscoop01.jpg) - (http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8454/deckscoop02.th.jpg) (http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deckscoop02.jpg)

SRT-8 (curves & 2" opening) vs. '79 Mustang (flat & 1.5" opening) scoop
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1238/deckscoop03.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deckscoop03.jpg) - (http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4310/deckscoop04.th.jpg) (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deckscoop04.jpg)

Sloping the deck lid 1/2" up. This makes the opening 1.5" w/o making the scoop lower.
(http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/851/deckscoop05.th.jpg) (http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deckscoop05.jpg)

I'll post more photos later...


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on June 15, 2009, 10:09:18 AM

Man i want to play with fiberglass ! You can do anything with that stuff !!

Mike i just read your fiberglass 101 sticky on the forum,..awesome explanation of the basics,..can't believe i never noticed it before !

Dave good choice on the scoop. Do you plan to tweek it further or leave as is ?


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: 2manycars on June 16, 2009, 06:47:29 AM
Ahhh . . . you guys just like breathing those fumes!

Say . . . that might explain a few things!  :D

Marc


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on June 29, 2009, 08:27:56 PM
DONE!
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6947/deckscoop01.th.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deckscoop01.jpg)

We are done with the exterior. No more mods. Next I will be working on the headlights since I have removed the Carbon Fiber laminate and installing 12" rotors (2nd gen C4) w/ stock '88 brakes with help from Marc (2manycars) & Chuck (2002z28ssconv).

Paint job? Well a economical coat to drive it around for a few months due to a concern Mike and I discussed regarding fiberglass work on the door panels done by v8-archie, may crack (it has already happened and been repaired). Unknown what type resign archie and his boys used to stick the fiberglass parts to the plastic doors. For some reason I personally don't think it was SMC or Epoxy resign.

Originally I was considering painting the car BMW space gray but Traci (Downtown Chic-a-go) gave the idea to go with a pearl white... Deja vu? That color been growing on me too... I think it would look awesome if I can combine it with black like the ASI F430 below.

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5406/f430frontperlwht.th.jpg) (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f430frontperlwht.jpg) - (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4823/f430rearperlwht.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f430rearperlwht.jpg)  :think: :thumbsup:

At the moment budget is exhausted so no major changes to the interior. I need to get this baby on the road ASAP. Special thanks to Mike (Blacktree) for all the hard fiberglass (skills & speed) work fixing/modifying the body and Lincoln (85LAMB) for motivation.

EDIT 07-07-09
Saw this darker tone of silver (not gray) on a Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Roadster this passed weekend at Mercedes Chicago... and yes it sold for $570k.
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9996/2009mercedesbenzslrmclaw.th.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009mercedesbenzslrmclaw.jpg) - (http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7213/2009mercedesbenzslrmcla.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009mercedesbenzslrmcla.jpg) - (http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7213/2009mercedesbenzslrmcla.th.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009mercedesbenzslrmcla.jpg)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on June 30, 2009, 11:08:26 AM
It does feel good to say "mission accomplished" on the body work, doesn't it?  :D


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: SAFASTRO on June 30, 2009, 05:10:21 PM
Congrats Dave!! Now get that thing rollin'!  :O


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on June 30, 2009, 09:12:24 PM
Moving forward >>> :D... Chuck was over tonight helping re-drilling the 12" C4 (2nd Gen) front rotor to the Fiero bolt pattern.
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8648/powerslotrotor126.th.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=powerslotrotor126.jpg) - (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1066/powerslot12662040swh.th.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=powerslot12662040swh.jpg) - (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4900/rotorchuck.th.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rotorchuck.jpg)

Tire Rack
Power Slot Power Alloy Rotor for your 1988-1995 Chevrolet Corvette

Front Left fitment
Style: Slotted
Finish: Black Rotor Hat
Note: (Left Front) Slotted vented rotor. For models with 12" rotors. Excludes heavy duty models.
Manufacturer Part #: 126.62040SL

Front Right fitment
Style: Slotted
Finish: Black Rotor Hat
Note: (Right Front) Slotted vented rotor. For models with 12" rotors. Excludes heavy duty models.
Manufacturer Part #: 126.62040SR


Need two of each @ $79 a piece. They also have the Alloy Cryo-Treated Rotor but no need for that.

Marc is working on the 3/8" thick brackets and concentric rings. I'm keeping the stock '88 calipers.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on July 14, 2009, 05:18:36 PM
Fairy lights came in from Hong Kong today. Note they are running off a 9v battery. With 12v they should be brigther.
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9105/fairylights01.th.jpg) (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fairylights01.jpg) - (http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1135/fairylights02.th.jpg) (http://img269.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fairylights02.jpg)

I'm not feeling it. Don't get me wrong they don't look bad, just not feeling it.  :think: Passing...


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on July 15, 2009, 12:14:57 AM
I think the fairy lights look ricey. :P


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on July 15, 2009, 10:32:52 AM
Fairy lights came in from Hong Kong today. Note they are running off a 9v battery. With 12v they should be brigther.
([url]http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9105/fairylights01.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fairylights01.jpg[/url]) - ([url]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1135/fairylights02.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img269.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fairylights02.jpg[/url])

I'm not feeling it. Don't get me wrong they don't look bad, just not feeling it.  :think: Passing...



hmmm,..kind of torn on this one. IMO the original lights are impressive on their own, and with this addition you are bordering on overkill ??

On the other hand they don't  exactly look terrible either. I think it boils down to personal taste.

If it were me, i would probably have to pass.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on August 16, 2009, 02:26:17 PM
I think the fairy lights look ricey. :P


hmmm,..kind of torn on this one. IMO the original lights are impressive on their own, and with this addition you are bordering on overkill ??

On the other hand they don't  exactly look terrible either. I think it boils down to personal taste.

If it were me, i would probably have to pass.


:iamwithstupid: :iamwithstupid:

Found a solution for HL. I ordered this kit from China (via ebay) $185. I got it in 4 days! Fast shipping and yes the UPS Girl delivered! (some reason I didn't get to see her :( ).

(http://centralfloridafieros.com/forum/gallery/postal/UPS_girl.jpg)

(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3746/buuu6qqmkkgrhgookkiejll.th.jpg) (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=buuu6qqmkkgrhgookkiejll.jpg) - (http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6617/276528486o.th.jpg) (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=276528486o.jpg) - (http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5180/projectorlensdimension.th.jpg) (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=projectorlensdimension.jpg)

Yesterday Lincoln and I test retrofitted these 35w, 6000k, bi-xenon (9003/H4) projectors inside the after market NSX GT-One (http://www.gt-rom.net/gtrom/gtlightkit/index.htm) headlight (now w/o chrome, entirely satin black). All we can say is  :badgrin: :badgrin:. The lighting and the angel eyes where super bright white. I'll post pics in a few weeks.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on August 21, 2009, 12:30:30 PM
Assembled one headlight yesterday. Here is a comparison from the previous GT-One HL with the carbon fiber laminate/chrome and the satin black retro fitted Bi-Xenon projectors. The second picture is the white angel eye lit up. Very bright! It's very noticeable when the HL is on.

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9278/newhl01.th.jpg) (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newhl01.jpg) - (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2909/newhl02.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newhl02.jpg)

Ordered from SuperBrightLEDs (http://superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=CAR#1157-x12) two amber 19 LED (narrow viewing angle, type 1157) bulbs for $7 + s/h each to place in the opening next to the HL.
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3088/newhl03.jpg)

More pictures coming soon...


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on September 26, 2009, 08:35:21 PM
Thanks Chuck and Lincoln. We finally got FGTO out of the garage. I will work on the headlights tomorrow. Getting very close!
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/952/chucklincsept09l.th.jpg) (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/chucklincsept09l.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: 85LAMB on September 26, 2009, 10:11:48 PM
You're welcome  :)

Man you got my best side on the picture   :D

I really  hope I see you driving it pretty soon   ;)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on September 27, 2009, 04:15:05 PM
I can't wait to see this car on the road. It's gonna be sweeeeet. :D


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: 2002z28ssconv on September 27, 2009, 08:11:50 PM
Words can not accurately describe how wicked that thing looks with the wheels on it. Especially when it's leaving a couple black stripes on the roadway. I didn't think it was going to be able to spin those HUGE meats.  :O :P


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on October 01, 2009, 02:51:21 PM


Congratulations Dave,..man that is great news !

Happy for you !!  That is awesome that Linc and Chuck were able to help you out. That is what a club is all about !

Props to both. They have always gone waaaay out of their way to help other members. Very, very cool.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Nathrak on October 01, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
Next time hit me up, I'm always good for a good wrenching or two.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on October 06, 2009, 05:46:56 PM
Fairy lights came in from Hong Kong today. Note they are running off a 9v battery. With 12v they should be brigther.
([url]http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9105/fairylights01.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fairylights01.jpg[/url]) - ([url]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1135/fairylights02.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img269.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fairylights02.jpg[/url])

I'm not feeling it. Don't get me wrong they don't look bad, just not feeling it.  :think: Passing...


i noticed the new ferrari italia has something similair to these !


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on November 09, 2009, 02:57:35 PM
Updates...

- Working on electrical for the marker lights and headlights.
- Marc (2manycars) is working on re-drilling the bolt pattern on the remainding three C4 front slotted rotors.

(http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5880/electricrichnov09.th.jpg) (http://img294.imageshack.us/i/electricrichnov09.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on November 10, 2009, 02:13:27 AM


Dave that has got to be your brother ?


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on December 16, 2009, 01:28:55 AM


anything new ?


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on July 29, 2010, 08:40:20 PM
I decided not to go with the "Mercedes Crystal antimony grey paint finish (701)" from the McLaren SLR 722 since the matte paint is too high maintenance. The only and best option for flat and matte paint is wrap.

Will be painting FGTO with:
GM paint code 8624 Olympic White/Summit White (new Camaro, Sky, HHR, etc)
GM paint code 8555 Black (new Camaro, etc) for sail panels.

Will have some black accents. More on this later.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on August 01, 2010, 09:24:33 PM


Got your painter lined up yet ?


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on August 11, 2010, 04:00:14 PM
Got your painter lined up yet ?

Got two written paint quotes and one vinyl wrap quote.

This LIP is one of the things that has been bugging me a lot on the front bumper. After carefully reviewing modern car bumpers this is my idea.

(http://a.imageshack.us/img828/5846/lipbefore.th.jpg) (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/lipbefore.jpg/)     (http://a.imageshack.us/img828/9394/lipafter02.th.jpg) (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/lipafter02.jpg/)     (http://a.imageshack.us/img594/990/lipafter01.th.jpg) (http://img594.imageshack.us/i/lipafter01.jpg/)     (http://a.imageshack.us/img576/5483/lipall.th.jpg) (http://img576.imageshack.us/i/lipall.jpg/)

Original, swept back 01, swept back 02 and all three together.  :think:

EDIT:
Information on Oracal wraps.
http://www.oracal.com/products/product.asp?seriesID=237&tabID=ts# (http://www.oracal.com/products/product.asp?seriesID=237&tabID=ts#)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 09, 2011, 08:26:06 PM
It's time to continue with the project... Stay tuned.

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2433/ontheroadagain20110410.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/ontheroadagain20110410.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on April 09, 2011, 11:56:42 PM
Was that last pic of it Sun up or sun down?

What kind of vinyl were you thinking? Like a decal that covers the whole car? I saw a show where the did a union jack (i think) on a lotus looked real good.

If you paint what is the plan? I have nightmares thinking about paint schemes that fail

Very sweet car!


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on April 10, 2011, 12:04:00 PM
I see the modular front end was put to good use. Hopefully soon, we'll be seeing FGTO on the streets.  :D


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: 2002z28ssconv on April 10, 2011, 08:40:17 PM
It was taken Saturday night.

The car loaded right on with no problems with that nose taken off.
It would not have been possible with the chin section still in place.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 20, 2011, 01:18:19 PM
Chuck and I got it loaded and strapped down for the haul to Woodstock, GA. I love that modified front end you made Mike... It's kicks ass.

I'm getting the 3800 install redone. Wasn't happy with the current install for several reasons (mounts, no dog bone, seals, etc). No performance upgrades at the moment. I may do some body mods.

(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4871/fieroprogres690.th.jpg) (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres690.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: 2manycars on April 20, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
What, what . . . is there actually life after near death for the FGTO?!

Say it's so Dave. What's the time frame.

Marc


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 14, 2011, 11:19:41 AM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
05-13-2011
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-21.html#p815)

back from the dead! most of you may know this one.

we wil be starting on this one today. the goal, to remove the 3800 clean it up and reinstall it the right way.
the install has isues to say the least. first the fuel pump works when it feels like it because of wire isues and when it does if you hit the gas the alt hits the strut tower and throws sparks out the top of the vent.

we will be droping the cradle today so I will keep you all posted as we go.
here are some pics from last night.
D.


(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2820/fieroprogres748.th.jpg) (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres748.jpg/)     (http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7902/fieroprogres751.th.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres751.jpg/)     (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8092/fieroprogres749.th.jpg) (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres749.jpg/)     (http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/4444/fieroprogres750.th.jpg) (http://img818.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres750.jpg/)



Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 14, 2011, 11:30:05 AM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
05-14-2011
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-21.html#p818)

work started on Davids car... yesterday we droped the cradle and started tearing it apart.
we got it torn down, cleaned up and ready for rebuild. we installed Rodneys mounts with our motor adaptor mount.
we will be doing several upgrades to the install the motor will just be a fresh stock rebuild. the parts will be here on monday so we will rebuild it then.
the car had lots of wiring isues along with a not so well done install. we will be re mounting the alt lower as well as redoing the heater hoses, wiring and dog bone mount and a new clutch.
I will keep you all posted as it goes but we should have it back in the car by the end of the week if not sooner depending on parts.
here are some pics.
D.


(http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/310/fieroprogres759.th.jpg) (http://img862.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres759.jpg/)     (http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8695/fieroprogres758.th.jpg) (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres758.jpg/)     (http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1068/fieroprogres757.th.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres757.jpg/)     (http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/7466/fieroprogres756.th.jpg) (http://img862.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres756.jpg/)     (http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2949/fieroprogres755.th.jpg) (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres755.jpg/)     (http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8814/fieroprogres760.th.jpg) (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres760.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on May 15, 2011, 09:29:27 AM
Sparks shootin out your vents under load, You sure that wasn't on purpose? :think:

Cuz that would take the intimidation factor to a whole new level   :O


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 16, 2011, 09:12:38 PM
Had the vents off. Lincoln and Chuck saw the sparks shooting 20+ feet up  in the air.  :scared: I missed it (was driving).  :D

Some of you know my biggest complain is the front fascia, even before I ever owned a Fiero. Someone recently defined it as: "The main problem with the front bumper is that it looks thick and heavy when in reality it is not. It should not appear so either..."

This is exactly how I feel but couldn't describe it.



Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 19, 2011, 11:54:00 AM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
05-17-2011
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-11.html#p428)

well we got back into work yesterday and got back to work on the car cleaning, painting and rebuilding the drivetrain.
new oil pump, water pump, bearings and all new seals and gaskets. the bearings were a ready for new ones but not bad. the rear main seal was leaking in to the clutch and the clutch was fried. today I will be drpoing off the flywheel to get it redone as well as getting a few other parts.
I will keep you all posted as it goes.
here are some pics so far, A little better looking now I think
D.


(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6398/fieroprogres763.th.jpg) (http://img847.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres763.jpg/)     (http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2731/fieroprogres762d.th.jpg) (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres762d.jpg/)     (http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7566/fieroprogres761.th.jpg) (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres761.jpg/)     (http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8084/fieroprogres764.th.jpg) (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres764.jpg/)

SEXY! :monkeyleft:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 19, 2011, 12:03:59 PM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
05-19-2011
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-11.html#p429)

well the drive train is back in 25 now we still have a lot more work to do on it with the harness, low mount alt and a few other details but looking way better now.
D.

(http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/6849/fieroprogres768.th.jpg) (http://img861.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres768.jpg/)     (http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/2224/fieroprogres769.th.jpg) (http://img806.imageshack.us/i/fieroprogres769.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on May 19, 2011, 01:04:36 PM


Wow Dave, that is light years better !

Dean is the man !!  :D


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 22, 2011, 09:58:16 PM
As I mention I've had some issues with the nose and have not mention the lines continuing from the door to the front fenders. I requested help from two car design forums. You can read the replies. (http://forums.cardesignnews.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/36560507/m/2167086106)

Below are four photos:

-Original  
-Corbertti 455 GT nose
- nardo design (mx)  
- nardo design (mx) w/ FGTO scoop

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9234/redfoxz.th.jpg) (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/redfoxz.jpg/)     (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3744/redfoxcorbertti455gt.th.jpg) (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/redfoxcorbertti455gt.jpg/)     (http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/724/redfoxnardo01.th.jpg) (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/redfoxnardo01.jpg/)     (http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/7416/redfoxnardo02.th.jpg) (http://img848.imageshack.us/i/redfoxnardo02.jpg/)

You decide.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on May 22, 2011, 11:26:50 PM
They all look good

I'm old school so I would rate em as you have em pictured left to right


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 23, 2011, 09:05:31 AM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
05-23-2011
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-11.html#p432)

well the drivetrain is back in the car now and I hade a new top dogboun mount for it as well. now I need to get the low mount alt in place then it is a few days of clean up on the wiring. friday we got it taken apart now today we will start rerunning it. we had to fix a few things on it first some of the sensor wires were run to ground and never hooked up. the pass key was rigged in and the fuel pump someone wired in the relays from the fiero and the donor car to the same thing and it would work when it felt like it.
more to come later.
D.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on May 23, 2011, 11:20:53 AM
They all look good

I'm old school so I would rate em as you have em pictured left to right


i am old school also,... BUT if you want to be different and break out of the pack, the last one is pretty sharp !

- nardo design (mx) w/ FGTO scoop



Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on May 23, 2011, 01:12:48 PM
I like the 3rd one from the left... a lot. I've always felt that your hood vent would look better with no divider in the center. Same for the nose.

Anyway, things are looking pretty good for the FGTO.

 :fiero:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 25, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
Thanks for the comments guys. I do like the more original look but that design is SICK!. Made me lose several nights sleep.  :D Besides that it would cost to much mula to change the design at this point. :( But it's still running through my head. ;)

3800 SC II engine swap is nearing completion. Dean has found several issues with the wiring.

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5472/whodeanieenginedone.th.jpg) (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/whodeanieenginedone.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Koenig355 on May 25, 2011, 08:30:44 PM
This shot makes the car look exotic........Keep it simple  or you will get the madcurl  and me virus (can't ever finish) stay on track my friend  and stay away from the dos XX's :D


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 26, 2011, 08:15:35 AM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
05-26-2011
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-11.html#p434)

the low mount alt and the dog bone are now finished and installed. we have about 70% of the wiring done now as well. we hope to have it back running by friday.
we had to fix lots of things on the car that were not up to par. like the wiring, the 3 piece coolant hoses the shotout mounts and a few other things but it is all working out nice.
I will try to get some pics of it today and post them this week. we want to get all the wires run and test start the car before we recover the harness to make sure it is all in working order.
D.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on June 01, 2011, 09:29:42 PM
El 85SEnochie cleaned up the concept and did some tweaks.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/068738-32.html#p1278 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/068738-32.html#p1278)

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3926/redfoxnardo021.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/redfoxnardo021.jpg/)     (http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/679/redfoxnardo02splitnose1.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/233/redfoxnardo02splitnose1.jpg/)

Me Likey!  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Nathrak on June 02, 2011, 12:05:51 AM
ok the scoops in the air dam and side skirts really compliment the hood vents


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on June 02, 2011, 12:06:59 AM

 :O

Nice !


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on June 03, 2011, 06:07:50 PM
ok the scoops in the air dam and side skirts really compliment the hood vents


@Nathrak
You just made a valuable observation... Which I did not realize before.

Here is a new concept nardo (mx) posted:

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1705/fgtoconcept02.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/fgtoconcept02.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on June 03, 2011, 06:32:39 PM
Hey Dave, that new concept drawing is full of WIN!  :thumbsup:

The previous ones with the split openings everywhere looked kinda "busy". But this one is sleek and sexy.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on June 09, 2011, 11:12:48 AM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
06-09-2011
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-11.html#p435)

got the motor reinstalled and running again. it looks way better than it did. we had to fix a lot of things on this one but it was worth it.
now we just have to install the bat box in the front and get a new tune on the motor.
D.


(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3760/fieroprogres782.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/fieroprogres782.jpg/)    (http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3534/fieroprogres783.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/fieroprogres783.jpg/)     (http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/6854/fieroprogres784.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/fieroprogres784.jpg/)     (http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9258/fieroprogres785.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/fieroprogres785.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: uhlanstan on June 09, 2011, 03:12:04 PM
I want to see this on the road..almost up to the quality of my HURST rubber shift boot install..I painted the H  red giving my car a more eexotic custom MODIFIED look

...............EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT
yes she was a T bone talking woman,BUT she had a hot dog heart.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on June 09, 2011, 07:59:00 PM
This thing is going to be so cool! I want a ride in it and do the KIA Sole hamster head nod when we pull up next to someone. :D


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on July 05, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
06-25-2011
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-11.html#p439)

the swap is done we are waiting on Dave to decide what body mods he would like us to do.

 :pidu: :notworthy: :fiero: :ILU: :TY: :clap: :dance: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on July 05, 2011, 10:04:33 PM
SWEET!!!

 :fiero:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on July 24, 2011, 08:06:58 PM


Dave parts recieved, will deliver them to Dean no problem.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on July 25, 2011, 08:41:39 AM
Dave parts recieved, will deliver them to Dean no problem.
Thank you Tony. I´ll talk to you when I get back in the country.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on July 27, 2011, 04:08:54 PM

Dave somebody says hello.  :D

(http://myfiero.com/uploads/27114_.jpg)



Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on August 24, 2011, 09:18:30 AM
Thanks Tony! I see you sexy thing!

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9057/fieroprogres858.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/fieroprogres858.jpg/)

 :monkeyleft:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 05, 2012, 11:58:37 AM
It's been the end of August 2011 since I had updated this thread and body mods were suppose to start on FGTO. Still waiting and Daytona 2012 in around the corner. Doesn't seem like it's going to happen. Here is an updated pic of my baby.

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6932/fieroprogres.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/fieroprogres.jpg/)

I am concerned about this comment respect to Whodeanie's customs on PFF. If anyone knows anything please PM me.

Thx

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-26.html#p1038 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-26.html#p1038)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on February 05, 2012, 10:49:40 PM
Ok I think I know what is going on

This guys stopped posting in 2009 - Came back in late 2011

Wasn't Dean talking about moving his shop to a bigger and better location around then? We all know he did but this guy prolly doesn't know if he did or not.

 :twocents:

That's Pappy's take on it   }:(

Or

Quote
BV MotorSports

I asked about a build, got the following reply:


I would love to, my only problem at this time is my building is being sold and I am not sure if we will be able to stay once it does. so for now I am holding off on new jobs until I know for sure. I can keep you posted but it will be march before I know anything.
D.

Doh!


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 06, 2012, 10:47:28 AM
That is the new bigger location to my knowledge. Dean has replied to the thread on PFF.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-27.html#p1045 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-27.html#p1045)

Quote
Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF:

Hi, all
as some of you know I have been sick so I have not gotten here much. just trying to work threw it at the shop.
I am getting better now so all is good.

as far as the shop goes the landlord let it go back to the bank and now the bank wants to auction it off on the 3rd of march. they want too much for it so I do not know if it will sell or not. but if it does I will have to find out if the new owner will let us stay or if we have to go and it also depends if my rent stays the same or not. we do have other buildings in the area we are looking at just in case, they may be a bit smaller than what we have but we will make due. the shop will go on no mater what so don't think that we are out of here. I love what I do and want to keep doing it for a long time.

I will keep you all posted as I know more. but for now all I am doing is working on the cars for Daytona :thunbsup:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on February 06, 2012, 12:36:46 PM
Wow - I hope whatever was making him ill wasn't serious and he fully recovers


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: 2002z28ssconv on February 06, 2012, 12:54:57 PM
... Here is an updated pic of my baby.

([url]http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6932/fieroprogres.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/fieroprogres.jpg/[/url])
...



I was looking at that and saying...
Chassis extension?
Fully disassembled?
What the???
But then I noticed the wheels... Then I noticed that the engine wasn't an L67... Then I notice the little green arrow pointing to your car way in the background... lol


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 06, 2012, 06:52:54 PM
I wonder if he just pushed himself too much with all the work... I'm sure the building issue didn't help either.

Wow - I hope whatever was making him ill wasn't serious and he fully recovers


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Koenig355 on February 07, 2012, 08:43:52 AM
Although Dean  may be a stand up guy just dont get complacent and sit on your hands, in todays economy it is really easy for small businesses to go under by any minor problems ..........justkeep your ears open  and  make sure to have a plan B exit strategy. :confused:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on February 13, 2012, 12:37:49 PM
Guys I spoke with Dean a few minutes ago. Seem we have a green light for Daytona. I'm crossing my figures fingers. Next week the front bumper will go into surgery according to the design in the photo sent. I may head up to his shop for a few days. Blacktree, I may give you a call with some questions regarding the bumper.

exoticse thanks for the text message update on Friday.  :thumbsup:

 :fiero:

EDIT:
Type-o.... Thanks Mike. I must be too excited... 8|


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on February 13, 2012, 04:06:23 PM
I'm crossing my figures.
And your fingers too, I bet. ;)

I bet you're eager to have your baby back home, too. I know I would be.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on February 17, 2012, 03:40:18 PM


Looking forward to seeing this one !


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 08, 2012, 06:52:52 PM
Update from Whodeanie Customs today:

Quote
We got the car on the lift and Aaron is updating the wiring. We also ran into a snag as well. When we tried to start it the fuel pump would not run. We dropped the tank to find that the pump was trash. The filter sock was missing and the foam around the pump had come apart and destroyed the pump. I got a new one already to go back in but we also found that the lines need to be replaced as well. The fill tube soft line looked like it had been cut with a razor. just enough to make it leak.

Aaron also worked on the tune for the car as well. I worked on the front bumper.
D.


I am so glad to hear progress. It's all good news to me.  :dance:

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17ftkgylbo9p0gif/cmt-medium.gif)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 09, 2012, 11:02:34 AM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
03/09/2012
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-12.html#p465)
Quote
It has been way too long since this thread had a constructive update so here you all go.
as some of you know David sent the car to us to re work some things like the motor install and a few more body tweaks.
the motor was in bad shape the bearings were bad and the wiring was shotty at best. the car would run sometimes and not others.
when he got on the gas the alt. would hit the shock tower and throw sparks out the vent and much more.
we re did the install with new mounts, low mount alt and rewired the whole thing.
as well as re tuned the computer.

now on to the body mods. David is kind of tall so we lowered the seat for more headroom.

the rear bumper was re worked to update the reflectors.

the front bumper was re done to shave the turn lights because his turn signals are now in the headlights.

and the lower part of the bumper that kind of looked like a snow plow was cut off so we could re work it a bit.
D.


(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2225/fieroprogres3691.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/fieroprogres3691.jpg/)     (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2190/fieroprogres3671.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/fieroprogres3671.jpg/)     (http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7765/fieroprogres3681.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/fieroprogres3681.jpg/)     (http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9584/fieroprogres3661.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/fieroprogres3661.jpg/)     (http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3703/fieroprogres3701.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/16/fieroprogres3701.jpg/)     (http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3905/fieroprogres3782.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/fieroprogres3782.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 10, 2012, 09:16:38 AM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
03/10/2012
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-12.html#p468)

Quote
more mods on the car yesterday.

the updated rear bumper reflectors.

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6294/fieroprogres3812.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/fieroprogres3812.jpg/)

Quote
removing the little tabs at the front of the hood.

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5199/fieroprogres3822.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/fieroprogres3822.jpg/)

Quote
and the start of the new front lower bumper mod.

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8830/fieroprogres3792.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/fieroprogres3792.jpg/)     (http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/4867/fieroprogres3802.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/fieroprogres3802.jpg/)

Good riddance to the hood tabs and the snow plow. No need for a snow plow in Florida, unlike in the Midwest...  :thefinger:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 16, 2012, 01:30:33 PM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
03/16/2012
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-12.html#p477)

Quote
we have been working on the lower front the last few days and have got one side almost done and the other glassed.
D.

(http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/8154/fieroprogres3881.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/fieroprogres3881.jpg/)

Spoke with Dean today. Have decided to leave FGTO @ WC's for more tweaks and not to rush for Daytona, Sorry 85LAMB and exoticse; just my situation has changed.  :(


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: 2002z28ssconv on March 16, 2012, 04:53:15 PM
Will it still have a removable lower bumper section?


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on March 16, 2012, 06:33:06 PM
Interesting. It looks like they flipped the air dam upside-down, and cut the center out (not necessarily in that order).


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: 85LAMB on March 16, 2012, 08:04:05 PM

Quote
Spoke with Dean today. Have decided to leave FGTO @ WC's for more tweaks and not to rush for Daytona, Sorry 85LAMB and exoticse; just my situation has changed.  :(

WHAT !?!?!?!?!   :(  8O8 :crybaby:

That's messed up, I was really hoping to see your car n Tony's at the show

I hope you can take care of your situation.   


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on March 16, 2012, 08:44:23 PM
 :WTF:

Well - looks like Daytona 2013 is gonna be the one for us Central Florida Boyz  ;)

 :fiero:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 16, 2012, 09:38:41 PM
Yes and it will also have a defuser. We are going for a look very similar to the 2006 Venturi Heritage GT3.
Will it still have a removable lower bumper section?


You are good!
Interesting. It looks like they flipped the air dam upside-down, and cut the center out (not necessarily in that order).


It was my decision. :(
Quote from: 85LAMB

WHAT !?!?!?!?!   :(  8O8 :crybaby:
That's messed up, I was really hoping to see your car n Tony's at the show
I hope you can take care of your situation.  


##13 is my lucky number. :)
:WTF:
Well - looks like Daytona 2013 is gonna be the one for us Central Florida Boyz  ;)
 :fiero:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 20, 2012, 02:01:32 PM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
03/20/2012
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-12.html#p478)

Quote
got it a bit farther but still more work to be done.
the pic does it no good it looks fantastic in person and will look even better soon :thumbsup:
D.

(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2984/fieroprogres3952.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/fieroprogres3952.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on March 20, 2012, 09:40:36 PM
Lookin Good!


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on March 22, 2012, 09:57:14 AM


Dave talked to Dean today and he says your nose is looking really, really good !

The plans to finish it off sound eye popping.  :O


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 03, 2012, 09:32:33 PM
Thanks pappy. Yellowstone posted this pic on PFF.

(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4743/cimg4466medium1.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/cimg4466medium1.jpg/)

The bottom half of the bumper has been bought in 3", that should help miss curbs, ramps, driveway dips, etc. I received some samples of ABS today, 1/16" and 1/8". I could use 1/8" with some support but the blade (lip) from the splitter that sticks out all around the front bumper will have to be thick. I'm thinking from 1/2" to 3/4" so it looks good and the rest can be 1/8". Blacktree did mention anything thicker then 1/8" may be too heavy. Dean confirmed the bumper will detach in three parts.

Didn't want to post this yet but I'm basing my mod from the 2006 Venturi Heritage GT3.

(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8743/2006venturiheritagegt3.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/2006venturiheritagegt3.jpg/)

The doors are next...


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 17, 2012, 08:34:38 AM
(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
04/17/2012
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-28.html#p1094)

Quote

Well all, the word has come down on our building, someone has bought it and wants us out by the end of the month  :(
I will most likely move back in to our old building for a little while till I can find something better for the shop. this could not happen at a worse time for us with getting the cars done for the shows but it is what it is. I will be in contact with the people who have cars here this week. it has all been a lot of stress on me with the FDIC not telling us anything about what is going on with the building and then just kicking up out like this. I will be cutting the shop back to a smaller scale so if you are intrested in getting work done I will have to have a list because of the smaller space.
a sad day but life goes on.
D.




Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on April 17, 2012, 09:45:20 AM
So what does this mean as far as storage - Is your car going to be outside, does he have enough room to get all vehicles inside the old place?

I know this is out of his control


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 18, 2012, 08:47:09 AM
UPDATE!

(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
04/18/2012
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-28.html#p1103)

Quote

our lease was with the last owner of the building and it was month to month. when the FDIC took over we paid them but no lease was signed they just kept it the same as it was. I did talk to the lawyer yesterday and told him that their was no way to move that fast and that we needed 30 days. he is going to get back to me today on it. what the deal is, is the building is under contract and the new owner wants us out before he signs the papers so he does not have to deal with it so they are trying to strong arm us out. I think we will get the 30 days. we have known this was going to happen for a long time now and it has been a big stress for me not knowing when it would. so now I just need to find a new home for the shop and keep working. I hate moving but I am sure things will work out for the better. I want to let everyone that has a car here that they will be taken care of and they will still be finished. I will not let anyone of you down :thumbsup:
D.


EDIT:
Dean just called. He got a 30 day extension!  :dance: So FGTO is going to the new shop!


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on June 15, 2012, 05:52:47 PM
Quick update... for some reason I thought the 1 year anniversary for FGTO at Dean's shop was August 2011 which was going to be my cut off date and bring her back home... Just realized it was April 2011.  :crybaby: Can't beleive it's been over a year.  :think:

http://centralfloridafieros.com/forum/index.php?topic=3.msg7962#msg7962 (http://centralfloridafieros.com/forum/index.php?topic=3.msg7962#msg7962)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on June 15, 2012, 09:42:24 PM
It's ok, a good wine takes time and gets better with age



Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on October 11, 2012, 03:20:25 PM
Hello guys and gals,

I just left Dean's shop and everything is business as usual. I will post photos later when I get to Birmingham and have a Milo's burger.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on October 14, 2012, 11:30:25 AM
Well back in Orlando and time to post my pics and observations from the visit to "Whodeanie's Custom" this past Thursday. According to BV:

- The shop is going under... FALSE
- Whom ever has their cars there will lose them due to the shop situation... FALSE
- Facebook and Web Site is down... TRUE due to update.

From what I was able to see after driving for more then 8+ hours one way is that BV is a liar, manipulated the facts due to his personal issues with Whodeanie's Custom, and extremely selfish. I (and other customers) did not have to be put in this situation especially since I have been dealing with financial hardship for over a year and having to deal with the costs/time of driving to Canton, GA... Thank goodness the shop is in driving distance and not in the Midwest. Dean has been helpful by keeping my car stored at the shop. I and the other Whodeanie's Custom customer that have chatted, PMed, emailed and text in the last few days have nothing to worry.

I will say that I have been very patient (like most of us) with Dean and the constant delays have been frustrating. On top of all it did not help waiting a week for a callback and learning that his phone was disconnected w/o notice... and later his sites are down. O let's not forget BV in the mix = STRESS! I feel that Dean is gearing up and will start 2013 fresh and successfully. IMO the new shop is just the right size.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-35.html#p1361 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-35.html#p1361)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img23/5600/dean01i.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/dean01i.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img197/9431/dean05.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/dean05.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img849/8235/dean03.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/dean03.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img577/4665/dean04.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/dean04.jpg/)

Dean did admit the FGTO has been setting outside for over a week... Wouldn't start due to old gas and something seem to be draining the battery. Dean will look into it. Just some random pics.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img803/1114/dean06i.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/dean06i.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img688/4759/dean07.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/dean07.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img809/6533/dean08.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/dean08.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img37/8115/dean09.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/dean09.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img502/5862/dean10.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/dean10.jpg/)

This week FGTO gets the new LED tail lights and work on the nose continues.

EDIT:
11/18/2012
Strikethrough above.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on October 17, 2012, 12:11:45 PM
Well since you talked to him on the phone what is that 11 year disable vet thing about?

I kinda take offense to that - UNLESS Dean was modifying the guys Fiero to accommodate some personal disability

It's like Shaun and Archie II - Only Dean is being smart and not responding


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on October 17, 2012, 05:34:17 PM
Didn't ask him about that. Heard his side of the story, BV and Dean need to settle their issues. We got into it on PFF so you will notice that several post of his and mines were blanked out as an agreement. I did ask BV that it would be best for him not to continue over posting on Whodeanies thread. I also spoke with Dean late yesterday, and I will be picking up my car on Saturday, hopefully I can get the transport schedule for then. I am very disappointed and frustrated in the constant delays with Dean and his work. Who knows how long my car has been sitting outside. Each time I think about it, it enrages me. I JUST WANT MY CAR BACK DOWN IN CFL.

 :angry: :tyson:

Well since you talked to him on the phone what is that 11 year disable vet thing about?

I kinda take offense to that - UNLESS Dean was modifying the guys Fiero to accommodate some personal disability

It's like Shaun and Archie II - Only Dean is being smart and not responding


EDIT:
Cliff Pennock posted on Whodeanie's thread.... Well said Cliff.   :clap:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-37.html#p1452 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-37.html#p1452)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on October 29, 2012, 08:00:03 AM
Cleaned up the last few posts.

UPDATE!

(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
10/19/2012
10/27/2012
whodeanie customs

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-37.html#p1467 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-37.html#p1467)
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-37.html#p1479 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075728-37.html#p1479)

Hood Extractor:
Sealed opening to battery compartment. Have to thank Troyboy for this one. Heat enters the battery compartment (battery relocated to the front) and drains it.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img132/2338/ventbatteryfix.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/132/ventbatteryfix.jpg/)

LED Tail Lights:
Tail lights were ordered from CloserToWholesale.com (http://stores.channeladvisor.com/closertowholesale/Items/2-39969?&caSKU=2-39969&caTitle=Euro%20Red%20Amber%20LED%20Combo%20Multi-Function%20Round%20%20Stop%20Turn%20Brake%20Tail%20Lights) (thanks Mike). Price $125.50 for each pair. These tail lights are a few mm larger then the Hellas. Also had to order the "3 wire Pigtail Harness Connector Stop Turn Tail light (STT)" on ebay, 10 pc for $15.

I was looking at YellowStone's Hella LED tail light mod but it would have cost aprox $900 (+s/h) for the same setup plus the installation cost. Too much money but IMO there is nothing better then Hella.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/087194-3.html#p97 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/087194-3.html#p97)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img560/1026/ledtail00.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/ledtail00.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img839/8995/ledtail01.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/ledtail01.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img22/1783/ledtail02.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/22/ledtail02.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img827/3349/ledtail03.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/ledtail03.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img7/763/ledtail04.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/ledtail04.jpg/)


Front Fascia:
WIP (Work In Progress). The Diffuser is somewhat dissimilar from design photos I submitted to builder, np will change once FGTO is in CFL. My goal is to get her home ASAP. Bottom half of bumper has been clean up alot!
(http://imageshack.us/a/img687/5412/newnose02.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/newnose02.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img210/9486/newnose01.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/newnose01.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img855/5592/newnose00.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/newnose00.jpg/)
:cheerleader:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on October 30, 2012, 01:22:52 AM
Looking good, Dave. I'd love to see those tail lights in person. IMO, those are perfect for your car.

 :fiero:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on October 30, 2012, 11:49:01 AM
Thanks Mike.

Just got off the phone with Dean. FGTO will be picked up tonight. I'd love to get her to Thursday's night club meeting (need to trailer it). Like to get everyone's honest feedback (won't hurt my feelings) I'll take feedback creatively to complete the exterior. Want to get her painted for Daytona 2013.
 :cheerleader: :cheerleader:

Halloween treat!

EDIT:
Delivery has been pushed back to the late evening on Nov 1, "Día de los Muertos" treat.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on October 30, 2012, 08:29:08 PM
Awesome still going to make it to the meeting?

Pappy wants to see it


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on November 01, 2012, 05:23:35 PM
UPDATE!

(http://www.fiero.nl/forum/avatars/00016071.jpg)
11/01/2012
whodeanie customs

Originally posted by whodeanie on PFF: (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074734-14.html#p542)
Quote
on the transporter to be delivered today. here are some pics from before it went home.
D.


(http://imageshack.us/a/img820/2435/wd01.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/wd01.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img843/3686/wd02.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/wd02.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img267/7324/wd03.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/wd03.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img705/7083/wd04.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/wd04.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img163/8792/wd05.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/wd05.jpg/)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img593/4091/wd06.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/wd06.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img42/6533/wd07.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/wd07.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img196/4436/wd08.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/wd08.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img29/6753/wd09.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/wd09.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img849/1479/wd10l.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/wd10l.jpg/)

Still waiting on the transporter...  :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Nathrak on November 02, 2012, 11:15:32 AM
I've said it before but it bears repeating.........that is one sexy beast!  8)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on November 03, 2012, 06:44:54 AM
Glad she's finally home (April 9, 2011 to Nov 1, 2012), can't believe FGTO was up there that long. Can't wait to see the other build that have been sitting there complete and out of Whodeanie Customs too. Would not start last night. Not enough juice in the battery. Hopefully a battary issue and not the electrical problem unresolved. Have not had a chance to review her yet, but will post comments when I do. Need to have her done (w/ paint) for Daytona 2013.

Pic from Thursday nights club meeting.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img838/28/trailer01.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/trailer01.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img571/6801/trailer02b.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/trailer02b.jpg/)

As you may hear... Thursday night when we got it to the house, it took us a while to unload her due to the bumper. Seven people monkeying around. One of the friendly neighbors called the cops saying that we are stealing a car..... I like to find out who that was.... Mother F@#$&^......  8O8

Today I'm going to pull out the battery to get recharged (hopefully the electrical issue is battery related). Going to test fit the headlights since minor modifications were done to that area of the hood.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on November 11, 2012, 11:33:48 AM
Just had time to drive her up and down the street..... Hopefully the neighbor doesn't call the cops making up another crazy story I was speeding....  :naughty:

-The engine feels nice and strong.   :clap:
-AC doesn't feel cool. Dean changed it over to R134. Going to look into his.  :think:


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on November 11, 2012, 11:59:26 AM
Is the battery holding a charge now?


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 28, 2013, 08:34:11 AM
No sure yet. I am keeping it unplugged and starting FGTO up once a week.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on March 28, 2013, 06:50:20 PM
Have not updated this thread in a while... So let's start.

Review of FGTO (11-18-2012)

As you are aware FGTO has been at Whodeanies since April 2011 until Nov 2012. To many delays, excuses, mislead, what every you want to call it... FRUSTRATING! IMO Dean is a cool guy, just make the shop cool too.

UNKNOWN: 3800 SCII reinstall, new mounts, dog bone, sits lower, clean, secure and strong. (impressive) MISFIRE ISSUES.
GOOD: new Alternator and relocated.
GOOD: New fuel pump.
GOOD: Installed low mileage clutch.
GOOD: Replaced engine bearings.
GOOD: Replaced problematic intake manifold gasket w/ GM metallic one (I hope so)
GOOD: FG Front bumper design and finish (impressive)
GOOD: Round LED Tail Lights (impressive)
GOOD: Battery was relocated to the front for weight reasons
BAD: A/C conversion from working R12 to non working R134a.
BAD: Front bumper Splitter is splitting open.
BAD: Missing Interior center console, glove box, passenger seat....
BAD:Cruise control and trunk lock switch not working.
BAD: Clutch need to be bled.
BAD: Metal break line pinned between the alternator and the trunk wall. (NO BUENO)
BAD: No time to fix fuel gauge issue.
BAD: PCM is supported by wires. No screws or bolts holding it down. WHY?!
UGLY: Communication and constant delays/excuses but very polite.
UNKNOWN: Have to look behind the firewall to see how the wires are routed and if any thing to protect them from the engine heat.
UNKNOWN: Not sure if the battery drain has been resolved. Reviewing.


(http://imageshack.us/a/img401/7407/review01.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/review01.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img811/87/review07.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/review07.jpg/)
The infamous Pop, soda, coke can test for clearance.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img202/1861/review02.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/review02.jpg/)
Patching opening under the hood extractor was patch. Was not smooth out. Troyboy was kind enough to bring this to my attention since the battery was relocated to the front.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img844/6234/review03.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/review03.jpg/)
3800 SC II installation was redone. Engine install is clean, secure, sits lower, new mounts, dog bone and alternator has been relocated.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img839/6894/review04.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/review04.jpg/)
This is where the alternator use to be... Torque the engine and it sparked against the strut tower.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img18/1200/review05q.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/review05q.jpg/)   (http://imageshack.us/a/img844/1214/review06.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/review06.jpg/)
New and relocated alternator. Notice here the break line is pinned down between the between the alternator and the trunk wall. I accelerated the engine and it not shift out of place but for safety reason I will move the out of the sandwich spot. NO BUENO!

(http://imageshack.us/a/img202/87/review07.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/review07.jpg/)
LED tail lights look incredible and are very bright. The lens are spray painted satin black like yellowstones. The other side where the old lens has clean cuts but the opening NEED to be closed to avoid getting dust into the clear covers of the taillights. I guess this is ABS and I do have experience working on this type of plastic.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img94/6662/review08.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/review08.jpg/)
Missing interior (center console, Glove box, my passenger side seat.... LOL.. had to laugh .... What can I say. The move is not an excuse. There should have been better organization of customer parts. I know several customer are having issues with this. Dean did mention he would get them to me some how. I hope it won't take too long.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img15/7324/review09.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/review09.jpg/)
The splitter or diffuser is interesting how Whodeanies created it using hollow plastic just like those lawn sign that say "Vote For Me". Fiberglass doesn't stick to the material and it's splitting on the back end. This isn't the design that was suppose to be done. Whodeanies did receive detail information earlier in the year with large laser print outs.

Design is base on a 2006 Venturi Heritage GT3
(http://imageshack.us/a/img24/8949/datenblattventuriherita.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/datenblattventuriherita.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img526/6991/mtm028.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/mtm028.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img515/1/mtm032.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/515/mtm032.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img14/1082/user31866pic22431222909.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/user31866pic22431222909.jpg/)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img834/5711/venturiheritagegt32.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/venturiheritagegt32.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img832/6526/venturiheritagegt372051.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/venturiheritagegt372051.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img803/3273/venturiheritagegt3mp251.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/venturiheritagegt3mp251.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img23/7223/venturimtm01.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/venturimtm01.jpg/)

No big deal with Blacktree we are going to make a new splitter possibly using that same material to keep the weight down and cover it with carbon fiber.... maybe. It will have to stick out an inch more then the current. Aprox two inches out. We will make the round opening as pictured above for additional driving lights.

For the most part I am happy with Whodeanies Customs work but do need to get the pending issues resolved and get a list of work and parts performed on my car. Dean was kind enough to Replace my rear deck vents with ones that had blinders (not sure what you call them).

EVERYONE WHO SENDS A CAR TO A CUSTOM SHOP SHOULD BE ABLE TO POST THEIR HONEST OPINION OF THE WORK PERFORMED WITHOUT HAVING TO FEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM WILL SAY. Just keep it polite and don't show your a$$.

Special thanks for Blacktree and 85LAMB for helping me review FGTO and to any customers that have posted there honest opinions on PFF.... It just benefits everyone at the end.

Will be talking with Blacktree and setting up a game plan to finisher her up. I'd say FGTO is about 98% complete on the exterior. If I recall anything else I'll add it later.

I like to apologies to BV Motorsports for any unnecessary comment I have made in the past. After hearing other customer and myself having certain issue with Whodeanies Customs; BV Motorsports has valid concerns and hope Dean and Steven can work something out.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 01, 2013, 09:15:38 PM
UPS girl dropped off new toys from China.... again (http://centralfloridafieros.com/forum/index.php?topic=3.msg4332#msg4332). Since I used the previous ones to mod another headlight.

(http://centralfloridafieros.com/forum/gallery/postal/UPS_girl.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img7/7374/xenon01.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/xenon01.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img62/2668/xenon02.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/xenon02.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: rpro on April 02, 2013, 04:30:44 AM
Nice headlights. Haha


Title: Re: (NSFW) The FGTO build chronicles (NSFW)
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 26, 2013, 03:58:50 PM
NSFW maybe...

UPS girl stopped by today with some new toys.... 10W High Power "LEDayFlex" Flexible LED Daytime Running Lights w/ Amber turn signal.

http://store.ijdmtoy.com/LEDayFlex-Style-Flexible-Design-LED-DRL-p/led_drl_7a.htm (http://store.ijdmtoy.com/LEDayFlex-Style-Flexible-Design-LED-DRL-p/led_drl_7a.htm)

(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/2735/upsgirl2.jpg)


(http://imageshack.us/a/img826/8456/drlturn01.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/drlturn01.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img51/3037/drlturn02.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/drlturn02.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img195/7872/drlturn03.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/drlturn03.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img46/6347/drlturnsize.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/drlturnsize.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on April 26, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
Nice   :)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 05, 2013, 08:35:27 AM
-Yesterday inspected and took measurements of the fascia. Noticed that one LED tail light installed by Dean fell inwards...
:lol:

-Removed the front body to inspect the right side fender well crack and noticed the FG/metal support brackets (http://centralfloridafieros.com/forum/index.php?topic=3.msg3971#msg3971)(marker light area) on the fascia where cut out. I don't understand WHY Dean (half-wit) cut these support brackets out since the exterior area of the marker lights where glassed. This could explain "why" when I nicked the bottom right side of the diffuser on the driveway and caused the crack on the same side fender well.
:confused:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img339/6683/wdissues01tl.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/wdissues01tl.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img407/9915/wdissues02support.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/407/wdissues02support.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img22/2963/wdissues05.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/22/wdissues05.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img221/5664/wdissues04.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/wdissues04.jpg/)

Quote
Dean is not the man...


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on May 05, 2013, 09:41:35 AM
Do you think the supports could be remade and added back to the panel?

Sorry about what happened with your car in Atlanta man


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: 85LAMB on May 05, 2013, 03:46:24 PM

Hey
I think he had to cut the "back" of the turn signal opening, 
to be able to put something behind the opening to fiberglass it.
I personally don't think that missing bracket will make a big diff.
I know Blacktree did a good job  :thumbsup:



Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 05, 2013, 04:33:17 PM
Thanks Linc. Was concerned about the sturdiness. That bracket was add by Archie's boys. Mike did great job when he made the bumper detectable.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img211/8555/nose09bracket.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/211/nose09bracket.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 05, 2013, 08:41:22 PM
Met up at Lincoln's place today to start with the modification on the fascia. Cutting here and there. Dang that is some thick stuff!  :O

(http://imageshack.us/a/img402/9897/linc01.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/linc01.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img713/7953/linc02.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/linc02.jpg/)

EDIT: 2013-May-06
-Grinding the removable part of the fascia. Ran into Dean's bondo/Filler cake (gray areas are FG, the rest is filler). Dang it's thick! Anyone who had body done by Dean should be very concerned! Get ready for the surprises!

-I will cut out much as possible.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img838/713/deansbondocake.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/deansbondocake.jpg/)



Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Blacktree on May 05, 2013, 09:26:34 PM
Wow, you're not kidding. That is WAY too thick! And it looks like much of it is filler putty. Yuck.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: madcurls on May 11, 2013, 02:21:55 PM
Any news regarding the nose?  :)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 23, 2013, 08:39:03 PM
Any news regarding the nose?  :)

Soon...

Don't like posting ANY dead air or BS in my thread :naughty:, so here is a quick update. :popcorn:

-Took the GT-One NSX headlights apart... again (pic01).
-Picked up at Harbor Freight Tools (http://www.harborfreight.com/2-inch-submersible-round-marker-light-kit-98070.html)  two 2" LED Marker lights (pic02).
-Masked off and cut out the area to fit the 2" LED Marker light (pic03, 04, 05).
-Very tight fit and done (pic06). These are not blinkers. Just wanted to be D.O.T compliant (hopefully). The blinkers will go around the stock location on the  fascia (Switchback DRL (Porsche Cayenne Style)). I'll post the Bi-Xenon assembly tomorrow.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img526/2050/marker00.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/marker00.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img822/7623/marker01.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/marker01.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img209/6629/marker02.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/209/marker02.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img833/3715/marker03.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/marker03.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img402/5972/marker04.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/marker04.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img163/7719/marker05.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/marker05.jpg/)

Bi-Xenon headlights parts included with kit. Fits all headlight housings. I use the bigger washers due to openings from previous lights.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img6/5633/bixenon01.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/bixenon01.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img842/4106/bixenon02.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/bixenon02.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img585/9360/bixenon03.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/bixenon03.jpg/)

Hmmm...  :puke:
Orange is too funky looking! Screw D.O.T.... Ordered 2" white LED from CloserToWholesale (http://stores.channeladvisor.com/closertowholesale/Items/2-38030-grommet-2wire?&caSKU=2-38030-grommet-2wire&caTitle=%282%29%20White%202%22%20Round%209%20LED%20Custom%20Mini%20Reverse%20Backup%20Lights%20/%20Grommets%20/%20Wires).
(http://imageshack.us/a/img708/656/bixenon04.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/bixenon04.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on May 28, 2013, 11:05:20 PM
Installed two white 2" LED's. Seems about 1mm or so larger in diameter and much brighter then the orange ones previous used. Looks so much better too!  :thumbsup:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img853/3232/gtone01.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/gtone01.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img827/430/gtone02.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/gtone02.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img842/968/gtone03.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/gtone03.jpg/)     (http://imageshack.us/a/img580/7963/gtone04.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/gtone04.jpg/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on June 23, 2013, 06:55:03 PM
No updates at the moment but wanted to post my findings of Whodeanies body work...

(http://imageshack.us/a/img694/183/u47w.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/u47w.jpg/)

Minor set back.


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FieroGTLT1 on June 23, 2013, 08:26:26 PM
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Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Linlor on July 09, 2013, 01:34:22 PM
FerociousGTO;

I just read through your build.  Very nice progress and build.  I am 355Fiero on Pennock's and I was working with 85SEnochie to see what the FGTO looked like as a 3" stretch and convertible in his photoshop thread.  I thought the car was a concept only.  One of your fellow Central Fiero member brought your project to my attention.

Are you going to be putting the bubble flares on to the wide body as well?  Also, do you know where the original front bumper that is on the FGTO drawing came from?

Keep up the great work as the car is looking outstanding.

Cheers
Don


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: madcurls on July 22, 2013, 11:55:01 AM
Dude, how is the Chopper? :)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: ReneHunter on August 22, 2013, 01:59:47 AM
Any news regarding the nose?  :)

Soon...

Don't like posting ANY dead air or BS in my thread :naughty:, so here is a quick update. :popcorn:

-Took the GT-One NSX headlights apart... again (pic01).
-Picked up at Harbor Freight Tools ([url]http://www.harborfreight.com/2-inch-submersible-round-marker-light-kit-98070.html[/url])  two 2" LED Marker lights (pic02).
-Masked off and cut out the area to fit the 2" led light ([url]http://www.niceledlights.com[/url]) (pic03, 04, 05).
-Very tight fit and done (pic06). These are not blinkers. Just wanted to be D.O.T compliant (hopefully). The blinkers will go around the stock location on the  fascia (Switchback DRL (Porsche Cayenne Style)). I'll post the Bi-Xenon assembly tomorrow.

([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img526/2050/marker00.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/marker00.jpg/[/url])     ([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img822/7623/marker01.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/marker01.jpg/[/url])     ([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img209/6629/marker02.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/209/marker02.jpg/[/url])
([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img833/3715/marker03.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/marker03.jpg/[/url])     ([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img402/5972/marker04.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/marker04.jpg/[/url])     ([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img163/7719/marker05.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/marker05.jpg/[/url])

Bi-Xenon headlights parts included with kit. Fits all headlight housings. I use the bigger washers due to openings from previous lights.
([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img6/5633/bixenon01.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/bixenon01.jpg/[/url])     ([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img842/4106/bixenon02.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/bixenon02.jpg/[/url])     ([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img585/9360/bixenon03.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/bixenon03.jpg/[/url])

Hmmm...  :puke:
Orange is too funky looking! Screw D.O.T.... Ordered 2" white LED from CloserToWholesale ([url]http://stores.channeladvisor.com/closertowholesale/Items/2-38030-grommet-2wire?&caSKU=2-38030-grommet-2wire&caTitle=%282%29%20White%202%22%20Round%209%20LED%20Custom%20Mini%20Reverse%20Backup%20Lights%20/%20Grommets%20/%20Wires[/url]).
([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img708/656/bixenon04.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/bixenon04.jpg/[/url])



very exciting build.. looking to have similar lights very soon


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: madcurls on December 06, 2013, 07:36:52 PM

Dude, what's new with your chopper? :)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: 85LAMB on August 12, 2014, 01:56:01 PM
Bump !!!

:)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: madcurls on April 06, 2015, 03:21:33 PM
Well, David?


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on August 25, 2015, 12:57:09 PM
UPDATE:
Modified nose, advance WIP.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/910/k9RhH0.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pak9RhH0j)     (http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/538/aDDooK.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/eyaDDooKj)     (http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/913/EqeHkT.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pdEqeHkTj)

Going in to storage since I'm relocating to Texas due to a new job.... Finally!


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: Pappy on August 25, 2015, 02:56:01 PM
Looks great & I love Texas!

Except the west Texas town of El Paso that place scared the hibby gibbies out of me

I met a girl called Falina she was a dancer at Rosa's cantina


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on August 25, 2015, 03:38:32 PM
Thanks Pappy. I've heard EL Paso looks great in a rear view mirror. ;)
 
Where I'm moving has the name of a movie....HINT: "Debbie Does ......" I'm sure Marc and & Stan can figure that out.  :popcorn:

Looks great & I love Texas!

Except the west Texas town of El Paso that place scared the hibby gibbies out of me

I met a girl called Falina she was a dancer at Rosa's cantina


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: 2manycars on August 26, 2015, 05:19:36 AM
FerociousGTO:

You just had to go there didn't you! Couldn't leave town without one last ding to Uhlanstan and myself! That's why you have so few friends!  :naughty:

Actually I've spent some time in Texas myself. Did a consulting job there in the 80's. "Could not" master the 2-step even with copious amounts of beer. There is something about girls in boots though that give a whole new perspective to relationships!  :O

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/Gwain_photos/Girl%20in%20boots.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/Gwain_photos/media/Girl%20in%20boots.jpg.html)

More to the point I'm disappointed you didn't inquire of your buds at CFF for help storing your car!

I for one would have seen to it that she got "special" care. Would've driven her often and far!

I'm sure Uhlanstan would've done his part to cruise in the chop top chick magnet to lure the local chiquas!!

Keep in touch buddy. You're not that far away.

Marc


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: exoticse on August 26, 2015, 09:53:52 AM


Congratulations Dave on the new job.

Dallas, wow ! Sounds like an exciting change.

Best of luck on the move and your new adventure


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on September 11, 2015, 01:26:50 PM
Thanks guys! The dust is finally settling from the quick move and job start with lots of traveling.
-D


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on December 04, 2017, 02:35:48 AM
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/076241.html (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/076241.html)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on December 18, 2017, 06:52:35 AM
Finally FGTO was pulled out of the shed. Here are some Hi-Res photos. Hopefully today they will clean her up and take close up pictures inside and out.

-D

(https://s18.postimg.org/5ho4xe991/FGTO_Front.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5ho4xe991/)

(https://s18.postimg.org/oa0010nnp/FGTO_Rear.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/oa0010nnp/)



Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: 2manycars on December 18, 2017, 07:58:16 AM
Hey FerociousGTO:

Clicked on your pics to see things close up and my eyes were drawn to page links "Meet the Most Gorgeous Ukranian Women in the World" and "These Asian Singles Will Make Your Jaw Drop"!

I'm missing the connection here to selling a car?  :O  Can you help me out?!  :confused:

Good luck man with the sale, and sorry to see you couldn't finish the project and enjoy the spoils after all this time.

Good thing I have strong self discipline, I only clicked on the above links a couple of times (each)!  xx(

Marc


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on January 30, 2018, 09:01:28 AM
Yeaaaaaaa!!!!!! Finally got the photos....

(https://s17.postimg.cc/hyf3bn91n/Fiero01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hyf3bn91n/) (https://s17.postimg.cc/nzcs8q3dn/Fiero02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/nzcs8q3dn/) (https://s17.postimg.cc/570x58mfv/Fiero03.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/570x58mfv/) (https://s17.postimg.cc/rvq44sw3v/Fiero04.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rvq44sw3v/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/hlnp5l13f/Fiero05.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hlnp5l13f/) (https://s17.postimg.cc/570x59haz/Fiero06.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/570x59haz/) (https://s17.postimg.cc/l59mvagmz/Fiero07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/l59mvagmz/) (https://s17.postimg.cc/3rzcgfdm3/Fiero08.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3rzcgfdm3/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/mkb7k0pfv/Fiero09.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mkb7k0pfv/) (https://s17.postimg.cc/zbpdqkwnv/Fiero10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/zbpdqkwnv/) (https://s17.postimg.cc/5jsbbehkb/Fiero11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5jsbbehkb/) (https://s17.postimg.cc/5wjphm2ez/Fiero12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5wjphm2ez/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/3rzcgit2j/Fiero13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3rzcgit2j/)

I should have the photos from the engine bay, NSX GT-One headlights, fiberglass dash and Audi TT A/C vents later this week.... Hopefully!


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on April 01, 2018, 06:10:49 PM
Was in Alachua, FL last weekend. Additional pics all around.

(https://s14.postimg.cc/gice658zh/IMG_20180324_161758.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gice658zh/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/eqjfb9crx/IMG_20180324_161810.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/eqjfb9crx/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/bosn10wzh/IMG_20180324_161834.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bosn10wzh/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/a9r2cbj1p/IMG_20180324_161938.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/a9r2cbj1p/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/i17sayuxp/IMG_20180324_162027.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i17sayuxp/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/mzvapie65/IMG_20180324_162818.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mzvapie65/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/d2k9wf3zh/IMG_20180324_162830.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/d2k9wf3zh/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/5ml0aky9p/IMG_20180324_162907.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5ml0aky9p/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/cpsvq68u5/IMG_20180324_163103.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cpsvq68u5/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/71mkzac7h/IMG_20180324_163114.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/71mkzac7h/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/966y0cqot/IMG_20180324_163246.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/966y0cqot/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/59tm4f359/IMG_20180324_163259.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/59tm4f359/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/71mkzajx9/IMG_20180324_163410.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/71mkzajx9/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/ryit3ws7x/IMG_20180324_163422.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ryit3ws7x/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/j3hytd8kd/IMG_20180324_163450.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j3hytd8kd/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/kvaxo94rx/IMG_20180324_163501.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kvaxo94rx/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/5ml0ah3dp/IMG_20180324_163514.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5ml0ah3dp/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/rlrexoci5/IMG_20180324_163519.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rlrexoci5/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/47jflqmv1/IMG_20180324_163526.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/47jflqmv1/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/p4fnqgibx/IMG_20180324_163540.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/p4fnqgibx/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/z1qojfi71/IMG_20180324_163552.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z1qojfi71/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/so1lg5q5p/IMG_20180324_163559.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/so1lg5q5p/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/7r5dbhcp9/IMG_20180324_163608.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7r5dbhcp9/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/zei2pkaql/IMG_20180324_163625.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/zei2pkaql/)


(https://s14.postimg.cc/4vsa566al/IMG_20180324_163637.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4vsa566al/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/xy6k800a5/IMG_20180324_163650.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xy6k800a5/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/sa09h3gi5/IMG_20180324_163707.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/sa09h3gi5/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/3ti3mi5fx/IMG_20180324_163739.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3ti3mi5fx/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/6atutsk7h/IMG_20180324_163753.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6atutsk7h/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/coixx24j1/IMG_20180324_163811.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/coixx24j1/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/tcafzgrjx/IMG_20180324_163829.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tcafzgrjx/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/haf25bxr1/IMG_20180324_163843.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/haf25bxr1/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/b9hd88g9p/IMG_20180324_163902.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b9hd88g9p/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/469hsrvgd/IMG_20180324_163925.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/469hsrvgd/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/e3killif1/IMG_20180324_163958.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/e3killif1/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/58job61d9/IMG_20180324_164040.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/58job61d9/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/nbcr2a2bx/IMG_20180324_164057.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/nbcr2a2bx/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/na2t8tq7h/IMG_20180324_164126.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/na2t8tq7h/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/xk5882nst/IMG_20180324_164130.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xk5882nst/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/v2th0qyql/IMG_20180324_164238.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/v2th0qyql/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/f4kramrnx/IMG_20180324_164319.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f4kramrnx/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/ibfau9jtp/IMG_20180324_164341.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ibfau9jtp/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/6mbb67su5/IMG_20180324_164444.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6mbb67su5/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/7bu3ikdy5/IMG_20180324_164553.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7bu3ikdy5/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/8qvo79k65/IMG_20180324_164623.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8qvo79k65/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/nzllkz8ot/IMG_20180324_164717.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/nzllkz8ot/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/s8qbn66t9/IMG_20180324_164805.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/s8qbn66t9/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/y9o0k8lpp/IMG_20180324_165323.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/y9o0k8lpp/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/zby72r9nx/IMG_20180324_165343.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/zby72r9nx/)
(https://s14.postimg.cc/jcfjjqvrx/IMG_20180324_165530.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jcfjjqvrx/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/yxwv3pffx/IMG_20180324_165536.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yxwv3pffx/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/dcrsfk899/IMG_20180324_172649.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dcrsfk899/) (https://s14.postimg.cc/ltraqypy5/IMG_20180324_172856.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ltraqypy5/)


(https://s31.postimg.cc/w6y6n9mtz/IMG_20180325_205057_095.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/w6y6n9mtz/) (https://s31.postimg.cc/fj6oksf7r/IMG_20180325_205059_913.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fj6oksf7r/) (https://s31.postimg.cc/tpmfg0id3/IMG_20180325_205102_399.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tpmfg0id3/) (https://s31.postimg.cc/jsbemy31j/IMG_20180325_205104_374.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jsbemy31j/)

(https://s31.postimg.cc/8sq7bbhrb/IMG_20180325_205107_936.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8sq7bbhrb/) (https://s31.postimg.cc/iq184dx2v/IMG_20180325_205111_574.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/iq184dx2v/) (https://s31.postimg.cc/iq184dhnb/IMG_20180325_205118_598.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/iq184dhnb/)


Title: Re: The FGTO build chronicles
Post by: FerociousGTO on September 11, 2020, 12:45:25 PM
Hello all, been awhile. I was in Gainesville, FL this week to replace the alternator, tensioner, serpentine belt, fuel pump, sock, fuel filter and flush gasoline tank. This girl is up and running with ethanol free gasoline. 😁 Thanks to Chuck and Lincoln for the help.
:TY:

(https://i.postimg.cc/DmXkK6fB/Gainesville01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmXkK6fB) (https://i.postimg.cc/rK26y4Kc/Gainesville02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rK26y4Kc) (https://i.postimg.cc/JHJ9crY9/Gainesville03.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHJ9crY9)

Look who stopped by Hugo's Auto Service...? Roger Thelin who makes the Ecotec kits.  :thumbsup:
http://thelinsells.limitedrun.com/ (http://thelinsells.limitedrun.com/)